I get that the whole perma-root nonsense he eventually does is problematic but holy crap.
Capping the amount of spells he gets per passive proc is brutal, especially when the cap is a miserable 5. The guy revolves entirely around those windows and is basically a fucking potato outside them.
Ryze has issues, but this almost deletes him.
Good riddance.
Contrary to popular belief, Ryze stopped being "SMASH KEYBOARD TO WIN" after his rework and it actually takes a lot of finger speed and precision to fully maximize his passive. I mean it's not heart surgery but it's harder than it seems, and this nerf just gutted the only reason i played him because i was actually able to get 7-8 spell casts off in one rotation.
Meanwhile at Riot and friends: Lets buff Xin, we don't have any 'tanky' assassins anymore since the Rengar nerf.
Why did they rework ryze to make his damage a skillshot but his snare still targeted and unavoidable?
Alsmost as bad as halving your biggest damage source at rank 1, removing one of your key mechanics, reducing your attack range, reducing the duration of your passive stacks and a "bug fix".. amirite? kek
But Fiora,Lux are untouchable champions.Actually they should be nerf.
He was still awful before this nerf. A mid-range mage who got massive waveclear, cc and damage nerfs after a rework that removed his tankiness and core mechanics until he's able to cast 5 spells? Yeah, he's just terrible now until level 16. And now he's going to be terrible afterward too.
Please don't unlike Ryze was not a issue. He has zero counter play if he goes top. He can just bind someone for so long they can't fight. When Nidalee on nerfed people said good riddance and now here I say good riddance to Ryze
The Ryze rework was utter shit, did nothing but make him much harder to play and even more unbalanceable. Good thing he's getting another rework soon
Until they give him a proper full scale rework, he's still going to have the same problems and he's either going to be abusively strong or have to be handicapped badly enough to not degrade the rest of the game.
It's just better this way.
Ok so listen. I was master tier and best Ryze in the world last season for about 4 months and i know ryze like I know myself. If this nerf goes through ryze will become the worst champion in the history of lol. He will not be be able to survive in lane against almost any match up. He will have 0 kill potential and no real way to outrade or outplay his opponent. That is somewhat ok if he can actually scale to something strong later in the game like old ryze did. Ryze is broken don't get me wrong. For me I feel like as long as I do everything right I cant loose against any match up. Ryze before the rework and before the small q buff was better than this Ryze in the Pbe. I played him a lot then and got diamond only with that "nerfed" Ryze. My idea of a nerf is very simple and effective. I don't get how riot didn't even think about it. So here it is. Remove the CD he gets from ult. Make him Gain Passive duration from CD. Therefore he goes in lane with 0 CD lets say and the duration of his passive 3s. For every 10% cd he get 0.5 s increase. Therefore at 40CD he will have his 5s passive duration as it is in live. The difference is that this would occur only when ryze has lets say ionian boots, frozen heart and let’s say 10 cd from a maxed q like old ryze had. This will make him scale slower but will keep his late game intact to an extent. The difference here is that he wont be able to rush seraphs second after rod since he will need the cdr for his passive forcing him to buy FH or morelo which lowers his dmg output early in the game. To compensate a bit I believe that his mana ratios should go up a bit but other than that I think he ll be ok. You will not be able to all in someone at level 9 like now but at least ull be able to defend yourself with that FH or spirit visage that will help you scale into the late game. I just came up with this so I don’t think its flawless. What do you think? On a side note, riot's comment that ryze is too cheap to be complex and have a high skill cap for beginners is just absurd and childish. Make another champion 450rp and increase ryze's cost then.
I get a bit irritated that Riot chooses to explain nerfs and changes for other champions for example Soraka but we won't get 1 Rioter in here to tell us what's up with this change and if it's final or just a PBE test. There's a few posts on the forums pointing this nerf out and reddit posts with hundreds of replies all discussing the doom of this champion yet Riot will not discuss what this will do to the champion, I'd really like to know if they think he'd be playable after this and if there are any future updates for Ryze this month. This favoritism on game balance insight is really annoying. I feel like as a game developer if you make changes that are experimental like this and people can test it out for themselves you need to explain why you want this change so the community can get a good idea about why it may or may not be needed. Xin Zhao only just recently got a response because of crazy amount of backlash, do we really need to heat up our pitch forks that much to get a simple explanation about a change?
Personally for me it looks like Riot gives the cold shoulder when they really don't have to. I am open for a Ryze change but let's talk about it first, I don't like it when a champion is out right dead until they find a way to solve it. We should get a change now! There should be a very small balance team built just for Ryze. A 1.6 billion dollar company can't make this happen? Another example I'll give is Mordekaiser, no one plays him now at all, Riot seem like they are in the mood to change him again but it's slow ... again. Another dead champion. It's times like this that I really question why I support this company and continue playing this game I can see so many other companies do PR and really communicate on their changes in a more respectful and dignifying way. I guess I just have a problem with favoritism.
Is this the third time that Ryze got nerfed for being too strong in competitive play even though he has a low solo queue win-rate? It sure feels like it.
