Stuck In Bronze 5

ChurchPvPs·3/11/2017, 5:09:44 PM·20 votes·3,690 views

Hey I've been stuck in bronze for a long long time . Every time I get a shine of light to at least staying in bronze 4 I always get sucked back in. Ive tried changing from my usual champs hoping that was the problem, to even changing my usual lane picks. ive had some good game and ill continue to play them and utterly lose repeatedly . I'm cringing to this routine and I'm honestly starting to lose hope . I always get on with the attitude to "this is the day I'm leaving bronze" and ill just lose .

Please help .[zombie-brand-facepalm]

76 Comments

BluePolarizer3/11/2017, 6:21:16 PM18 votes

Play exactly 1 champion in both your roles that can do so. For example, play nothing but Karma support/mid, nothing but Olaf jungle/top or even god forbid nothing but Teemo top/jungle. Always have a backup support pick. That means your champion pool should be no more than 3 champions ever played (1 main role/offrole champ, 1 backup in case main is picked or banned, 1 support).

The selected champion should not be mechanically intensive. That means no Riven, no Yasuo (despite being flex role), no Ryze. Skillshots do not imply mechanical intensity - Lux is one of the least mechanical champions in the game despite being exclusively skillshot based. As long as you don't aim backwards with Lux you can't really go wrong (also highly recommended for climbing low elo since she can flex role mid/support).

Go into customs and practice 10 games of last hitting only, no abilities, no items. Success is defined as missing no more than 1 minion per wave with no enemies. Then play 10 1v5 bot games with your champion. The first goal is to win, the next is to win with less than 5 deaths, the next is to win with 0 deaths.

Then play 100 games in normals with your chosen champion. It should have a ban rate less than 10%. Most flex role champions fit this.

Now you are ready for crushing everyone up to gold 5.

Davaken3/11/2017, 6:29:29 PM8 votes

I have never been in Bronze myself, but I can try listing a few tips that people on low elo often forget:

Play for objectives, not kills: Towers, dragons, map control and Baron are way better for winning than a bit of gold.
Create picks and use them for you advantage: Kill people when they are alone or out of position
Prioritize farm: A kill will in most cases only give 300 gold which is roughly the same as 20 minions. If you keep your farm up the whole game you will be way richer than other Bronze 5 players, and probaly stronger too. (Especially do this when behind).
Push towers after ganks: I stalked your profile and you seem to be a jungle main. If your get a kill on, let's say their top laner, you should often try to take his tower, or at leastdeal damage to it.
I see you playing a lot of Lee, and if you like to play Lee, then play him and get good at him, then you will climb. However, if you just want to get out of Bronze, I suggest playing lategame champs simply because people at your elo are bad at closing out the game, and you won't fall off lategame. (Think YI, Jax, Fiora, Xin Zhao, Vi etc.)

Good luck getting out.

the weeaboo3/11/2017, 6:53:12 PM6 votes

These champs can basically solo carry games

As soon as you get into a match do /mute all. Prevents tilt from toxicity.
Take as many objectives as possible. Fuck kills. Kills are useless in comparison to drake or tower.

fuffychan3/11/2017, 5:22:36 PM5 votes

Can I borrow your acc? I wana go like 50/0 stomping some bads

nice table3/11/2017, 9:36:30 PM4 votes

well here i will give you some quality advice from one jungle main to another:

stay the fuck away from shaco, lee sin and kindred (also bard, yasuo and zed)
when you have made up your mind and chosen a champion to play go watch a replay of a good player playing that champion, copy their clear routes
tanks are op bellow gold mmr, no one builds last whispers
every jungler paths from bot side buff - wolves - buff, feel free to abuse that

normie sIayer3/11/2017, 8:27:18 PM4 votes

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Lock On3/11/2017, 11:03:01 PM3 votes

Stop playing Zed, Yasuo, and Lee. If your goal's to climb, you don't need more mechanical champs to win games. Tanks/bruisers that can have an early presence or a lot of mobility/cc in the jungle wins games, which is arguably the best carry role atm unless you learned how to roam well as a mid. Don't spam ranked, and don't accept surrender votes unless the game is 3 - 20 all towers but base taken. It's low bronze ffs, throws WILL happen. Besides, you won't learn jack on how to turn games around and capitalize on mistakes if you end the game before it happens. As a jungler, you especially need good map awareness. Spotting things like: my top laner's getting ganked, I can't get there in time, but my bot lane's doing well/their bot lane recently backed; let's sneak in this dragon.

Do NOT gank your 0/4/0 top laner or mid unless your cc is enough to halt them from doing damage long enough for you to kill them. e.g.Trying to 2v1 a Darius with a few kills on him already is mad risky; that's why you want to try to have some early presence on champs like him so this doesn't happen. If it does, don't worry, he doesn't really do much in fights. He has no gap closers and he'll blow up with grievous wounds on him. If your mid doesn't have them, try to get your ADC to buy item 3123 and sit on it for a while.

You really need to keep all the small things in mind, like power spikes, levels and stuff before making decisions. That's the hardest part. Otherwise you're usually just farming it out in the jungle for a bit before looking for your next gank. If bot's pushed in, health/mana/levels are about even and you're playing Vi or someone with an easy gap closer, stop farming the damn chickens and go for it.

Malphite jg was my go-to for plat. Team just had to give me a chance to hit 6, and I'd have a presence every minute. R-to-win, no mechanical prowess required. Veigar support too. It took maybe 80 games from P5 -> gold 2 place -> g3 -> P4.

Seriously, hate the surrender button with a passion. Rather climb in 80 games of various lengths (25-45 minute) than try to grind 300-500 games in only to reach last season's division. You'll find it a lot more rewarding and end up saving loads of games -> promos you'd otherwise have to frustrate yourself over.

Try not to duo too much; tends to saturate your MMR and eventually leads to mediocre LP gains/losses before you even hit a 50% winrate. And if you do, play with someone Around your skill level (not just elo; no high plat smurfs) in a different lane. So that way assuming you can both hold your own, if someone's feeding their ass off (it will happen regardless of what we say/do,) at least the game's carry-able. But if TWO people are feeding :^) well, it probably won't be lol. Shrug it off.

Lastly, wins/losses. Just stop at 2-3 losses in a row for the day. The. Day. One hour isn't going to freshen your mind; you're gonna need a goddamn nap if you actually want to forget about the last game. If you're on a winstreak, nice, but again, don't grind a shit-ton of ranked either. Get some fresh air god damn it. You can always stomp the next day. And don't feel bummed out if your 4-game winstreak does end. I've come to realize, through my experience anyway, that winning too many games in a row just before promos will reciprocally increase your chances of losing games during that crucial time. Otherwise there's no reason to sweat promos.

Aptest3/11/2017, 8:39:50 PM3 votes

You only use wards when you play Lee Sin. This makes me think your usage of wards is just as a mobility tool on lee sin. You should focus on putting wards in places where your team benefits from the vision. For instance, if you ward up the other team's jungle your top laner can know he can fight the other guy. If you ward around dragon, you can go for a pick on one of the other guys who is trying to rotate to it, etc etc etc.

When you play support, I find tank build is superior on bard than AP damage build. Bard is good for making plays, and with a tank build you become better at shoving your fat ass in someone's face and forcing the engagement, or trolling them when they engage on you while your team cleans them out.

Only Play Darius3/11/2017, 8:59:40 PM3 votes

Play a ton of norms before you get back into ranked. You don't learn anything from repeatedly playing against the lowest of Bronze. Norms will often put you against Silver and Gold players so although some of the games will be brutal you will at least be learning something. After a couple months of norms/TB only, I made it from B4 to Silver in a week.

Moetaro3/11/2017, 9:11:48 PM3 votes

This game is decided by the worst player in the match, not the best.

You die too much when you lose and, hence, you are denying your teammates the possibility to carry you.

DO NOT DIE. If you get 0/2/0, for instance, just play TOTALLY SAFE, and dont die again in the whole game. Even if you lose, even if you feel that you are doing nothing, even if you think "Omg, we are losing I have to carry", it doesnt matter. If you do that you are giving the possibility to carry to your teammates.

DO NOT DIE. That alone, will carry you to silver. Remember, there's always a feeder in low elo, ALWAYS. This feeder will decide the game, dont ever be that feeder, never ever.

Another thing, do not consider that you win when you win and you lose when you lose. It's not related. I just used to think, "If I die less than 4 times, I win, if I die more, I lose". You cant control the games, but you can control your number of deaths, count your win/loses that way, try to achieve a high % of "wins" and you'll be silver in no time. I tell you that because you will have games where you die less than 4 times and you will lose them, you will think "what the heck, I should have tryied to carry when I was 0/3", that's a mistake, dont count that as a lose, that was an actual win, you cant win every game.

Grymmstrike3/11/2017, 5:16:37 PM2 votes

I'm in the same boat :( Stuck in Bronze 5. Not sure how to get better.

Randomonium3/11/2017, 5:58:51 PM2 votes

Go into custom games and work on your last hitting. Right now you get around 3.5 cs/min in lane. With just a little practice you could double that.
If your sole goal is climbing out of bronze 5 then you need to find one or two champions you really enjoy playing and only play those champions. Ideally, you want to play champions that don't have very complicated kits.
Review your replays and analyze your mistakes. If you can't identify your mistakes then get a free coach from a site like leaguecoaching.gg

MFTORANK13/11/2017, 9:04:04 PM2 votes

You aren't gonna like what I gonna say but if you are stuck in Bronze 5 it means you are still a noob and you have much to learn, it took me 4 days to get from b5-s5 on a smurf account I was leveling, not bragging just stating the facts.

Now that we've got that out of the way ask yourself these questions ;

What are my strength/weaknesses 2.What type of champions do I enjoy playing
Are my runes and masteries perfectly set-up
How many hours am I willing to put to become better

IMO ; In bronze you can play literally any champion, just practice the same champion over and over and you will eventually stomp lane hard. Set up your masteries and runes properly and if you can play at least 2-3 hours a day and you will be out of bronze in 3 weeks max.

KoggyStyle3/11/2017, 10:41:40 PM2 votes

Meanwhile im having diffaculty making it down to B5 so i can start proving people wrong.

ill look ya up real quick.

Edit, Seems like you need to get tankier sooner on your lee games (no dont go cinder hulk lol) used to lees would have BT Last whisper and then stright tank ninja tabi vs high auto / low cc or merc theads vs heavy cc / ap

id highly reccomend picking up tyrnd hes known to be a splitpushing god for a reason (hes a elo boosting machine in the right hands)

You could become a support main and carry your adc long enough by spoon feeding them kills warding up hard and sweeping so your jung isent spotted coming to gank, also pro support tip, unless your adc backs and your full hp / mana dont cs(yes a good nami can last hit kinda decently) or if your waves pushed into turret go gank mid.

Earl Eulrich3/11/2017, 10:58:52 PM2 votes

usually good csing is the first step to get out of bronze...if you can keep up csing to at least 7-8cs/min you should be richer than most of your opponent after 20min and can carry from then on then just add some decent overall mechanics and a little map awareness and you´ll climb up to gold eventually.

RocketRelm3/11/2017, 11:07:00 PM2 votes

For anybody that wants to get out of bronze 5: play 25 games of Annie Mid. Annie is honed in on exactly 1 thing: threat radius. Learn where yours is. Learn where the enemies is. Figure out when you can get off damage, and figure out when an all-in is possible. In bronze tiers, people will give you, at least once a minute, a free kill on them. Learn to recognize your opportunities, and ideally learn not to give the enemy theirs.

For higher ranks you need a hole lot, but for bronze 5, you literally just need to learn Zone Control to win as annie. Also: Trading Stance. Learn trading stance, you'll get out of bronze

Teslyn3/12/2017, 7:25:45 PM1 votes

well for starters you need someone to review your matches with you -fresh eyes help. than you need to learn the map. -Where you live should represent you. than you can climb out of this hell you put yourself in.

Bobovich3/12/2017, 2:32:45 PM1 votes

Here's a strategy -

Pick a top lane champ who can take towers quickly. Yorick with Triforce and zzRot is not a bad example.

Whilst your team is running round the jungle trying to kill enemy Shaco in a hopeless never ending team deathmatch, sneak into a lane away from the action, and start pushing for the enemy tower in that lane. If the enemy comes for you then back off, if you lose sight of the enemy you can assume they are coming for you, so again back off.

Repeat this until you get some inhibs and you should be in a better position to win the game.

kurthl33t3/12/2017, 4:00:58 PM1 votes

Just took a quick glance at your match history, and I would recommend upping your game when it comes to warding.

Good wards will protect you from getting ganked. They'll allow you to get picks on players who think they're being sneaky. They'll let you know when it's safe to leave lane and gank. (Oh look, their jungler is at their red buff, I can go gank bot lane!) They'll help prevent baron and dragon steals.

(Yes, I'm only bronze 3 right now, so this is not advise from someone who knows how to get out of bronze. But it is advise that will get you out of bronze 5.)

Buy red wards.

Use your trinkets.

Learn common paths through the jungle and ward the high-traffic areas.

Watch the mini-map.

If you back, purchase that big-ticket item, and find you still have an extra slot and some spare gold, buy a red ward. I don't care if you already have one on the map; you'll find an opportunity to place the new one.

Drop a red ward in baron or dragon pit when taking those objectives. Clear enemy wards from the pit to help prevent steals.

If you've purchased Tracking Knife or Sightstone, trade your yellow trinket for a sweeper and help clear enemy wards. This will set you up for better ganks/picks.

Look at your stats for warding after every game. Between your trinket wards and control wards, try to average 1 ward every 2 minutes or better. (For added fun, try to out-ward the supports. It's my favorite mini-game when I'm not supporting!)

(By the way, your warding stats are okay when you play Lee Sin, but could still be better--you could be dropping red wards and clearing enemy wards.)

idontgiveabother3/11/2017, 10:09:28 PM1 votes

I wanna be the guy to give you advice on learning new stuff, playing the map, mechanics, ect. but it feels so luck based. My first season I almost got to silver right away but fell to bronze, just recently I went from g5-g2 in week (all without actually learning and putting effort into it). The best I can tell you is just learn good champions to carry with oh and don't die. You are always going to have the guy who is completely clueless and loses the game single handly (hence the luck part). I know this is probably crappy advice but it's the best I've got from my experience. Also don't lose hope, I can guarantee you're better than some up here in high gold.