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@RIOT - Question on player longevity and how it affects ranked play.

The Leper COn·5/27/2016, 3:33:58 PM·3 votes·632 views

Hi all, I have been playing League for many years, and over that time, I have played thousands of normal and ranked games combined. When this season started, and after an extended break, I came back and was doing pretty well with Malzahar (pre-rework) and Lux. I believe I went 8 wins 2 losses in my promotional series and was placed in Bronze 4, which was surprising but not entirely unexpected based on previous experiences. My question is, at what point is a player's past history of wins/losses (mmr) detrimental to the actual current growth of that player? How long must players be "punished", so to speak, for not being good at the beginning of their playing career (or maybe I'm still not good at all), but possessed a near rabid fervor for the playing of the game.

It seems that, for me to get a chance of advancing in ranked, I need to create a new account and leverage my experiences from my previous playing sessions and transition that knowledge to this new, fresh account. An account with no preconceived notions about me, my win rate, or anything else, per se.

The problem is that this seems counterintuitive from a gamers perspective, as I have both a sentimental and monetary attachment to my main account, with all but 4 champs owned and hundreds of dollars in skins. My proposal would be to wipe clean the results of previous seasons, or at least stop taking into account matches played years ago.

Thank you for those that read my mini-rant.

9 Comments

Neo Metalsonic5/27/2016, 3:47:30 PM1 votes

No this is not the case.

If you're bronze silver or gold, it is not your team that is really holding you back. The harsh truth is that you need to be more skilled and experienced at the game. I've got through silver 1 to plat 5 with like 75% winrate this season (solo), then it slowed down a bit since I went to duo with mates and I now only have 58% at D5.

But back to the topic what I saw in those games were that everyone, teammates and enemies, made very big mistakes. Mistakes that are just gaping holes in gameplay and game knowledge. Some don't do certain things they should be doing others do things that they should not be doing (even though the players only blamed people for the latter when I was playing those games, probably because they lack knowledge themselves to see these things that I see pretty easily).

You just have to improve and you'll get out of bronze easily.

The Leper COn5/27/2016, 3:52:35 PM1 votes

As a kind of sample, do any of you folks have stories on new accounts vs old accounts, where you were x rank on an older account, then created a new account and were of a similar/higher/lower ranking after your promos? If I have a brand new account and go 10/0 in a promo then have a 5 year old account and go 10/0 promo, would I expect both rankings to be the same?

I certainly don't believe I am a plat player trapped in a Bronze ranking, I merely think that my thousands of other games shouldnt have an adverse affect on my current ranking.

Tract5/27/2016, 4:15:07 PM1 votes

Yeah I agree. I got placed in Bronze V last season and climbed to Gold V by the end. This season, they pulled the same thing again, and I currently am on promos to silver 2 and closing in on gold once again. Learn your damn placements lesson Rito.

The Leper COn5/27/2016, 5:00:22 PM1 votes

Thank you for this feedback, that is interesting (and frustrating).

DeathBurst5/27/2016, 6:31:22 PM1 votes

You definitely shouldn't start a new account.

There are two possibilities: you are right, or wrong.

If you are right, and you are better than the system think you are because of all your old defeats, then you will have easy matches and you will climb easily. No need to create a new account.
If you are wrong, and you are not better than that, creating a new account won't help you and you'll end up in the same spot. Except you will have lost all your accumulated RP/IP, and all the champs, rune pages and runes that you already acquired on this account. So you better not create a new account.

In any case, don't create a new account ;)

The Leper COn5/27/2016, 7:24:32 PM1 votes

I will admit I hear conflicting stories about climbing out of bronze. Be that as it may, I may have neglected to say that I am primarily a support player. My win rates with supports are pretty decent with most being well over 50%, and I am about 15 games over .500 for this season. I have seen people with lower win rate percentages in much higher brackets. Those are the things I have trouble quantifying.

Rabblerouser5/27/2016, 7:56:58 PM1 votes

Rank is a measure of your skill. Also playing tons of normals shouldn't affect your ranked matchmaking because they use separate matchmaking.

Making a new account may not work, either, because Riot stated they even have tools in place to spot smurfs and put them in proper matchmaking. e.g. if you start ABSOLUTELY WRECKING lvl 1-10s on a new account, you're probably going to start getting matchmaking with other players the system has found to be around your skill level.