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it is logically impossible to replace solo queue with dynamic queue

Global Huff·1/15/2016, 9:01:19 AM·25 votes·2,272 views

Playing by myself but being ranked on the same ladder as premades doesn't make any sense. Either I will be queue'd as 1 person versus an entire premade OR premades will almost always play against other premades. In both situations it makes NO SENSE to rank 1 person and entire teams on the same ladder.

If I am playing against a 5 man team, I will have to be significantly better than the average player on the other team in order to have a 50% win rate. If 5 friends play dynamic queue together, but 3 are diamond and 2 are silver they will all most likely end up in low platinum. This makes dynamic queue ranking a horrible measure of individual skill, regardless of who their team happens to be playing against. Dynamic queue removes the ability to have an individual skill ranking since both teams and individuals will be matched against each other and ranked on the same ladder. There is no logical way to resolve this without creating separate ladders.

If you really want "dynamic" queue, this is how I would do it: Solo queue: 1 player Dynamic: 2-3 player Team: 5 player

Personally I liked the old duo/solo system and thought it was fine.

This post was only in reference to the 1-5 team size for dynamic queue, not the pick your role aspect which I think is probably fine or at least can be made to work.

17 Comments

Dread Pirate Jah1/15/2016, 9:03:19 AM5 votes

I completely agree.

Reasons I think the new "Dynamic" Matchmaking system in League Of Legends sucks.

If you're in lower elo's, with the you will face extremely long que times due to the overwhelming unintutive nature of this new system, there has been mass amounts of dodges. Either they don't ban or "Lock" in their character after they have "selected". For people that have played thousands and thousands of games, this habit will most definitly die hard for some, and at what cost? Mass amounts of LP lost for nothing and sitting in 1-2 hour que times. I personally had two games today with 20-30 dodges before the game finally started. With the new system dodges and the normal troll dodges, I sat in que for over 90 minutes more than once today.

It seems that the new system is completely geared towards high elos, socialy stimulated people, in general. If you're that anti social, "Lone Wolf" type, and you're brave enough to solo Q in higher ELO, say goodbye to that LP!!!

Matches are now filled with PUGS VS PREMADE....heavily stacked teams,that are all in voice, whilest you are stuck with the Shen, that rage quits at 5 minutes, because "our crappy jungle doesn't gank".

So why would you solo Q? ....You won't.....makes absolutely no sense to do so...be social....get a ranked team together or don't play league.

GGWP SoloQ.

Rito has casted some pixel magic fairy dust spell on all of us, with their ....oh so fancy new matchmaking cosmetics...making us forget about reason number 2 completely...there is alot of vet gamers in this community and they have all seen what PREMADES do to PUGS. Does this not feel like thee age old honor grinding pub stomp groups? WoW is back...in MOBA form.

Not to mention that the matchmaking screen eats up nearly 5x more CPU resources to run, with its quadratic algorithms, blinding us with their sparkly pixel magic of forgetting. It's no wonder why the client crash count on champion select is off the charts.

RIP anyone to all those poor souls that play this game on a potato.

Everything about the new look...reminds me of hearthstone. For some reason.... ew...ew...ew...just ew.

Sure, it's pretty.. But this game prevailed through great game mechanics and not system heavy flashy pixel crack.

Rito. If you would of spent a tenth of the time and resources from creating the new matchmaking system, onto creating skins that are worth your customers money. (Rather than just changing the colors of the champions in creative ways...aka....ooooo pink nidaleeee......totttz challenger....)

You could have provided some actual designs that wasn't manipulating old code and give the public something new and cool. (You can barely see the pink mark above their heads now……you’ve actually gone in the other direction of visual clarity on this pink madness)

(Pulsefire Ezreal, for example...... There are a few others...that you can tell had a real artist behind them...whilest..... most are just a joke!!! and the only reason they ever became popular...is because no one bought them in the first place!!! How overwhelming easy the changes must of been to use the exact same code and just change green variable values to pink.....so much fail skins....with so few awesomez. If you are going to do pixel crack...do it right. GitGuD

Why not spend some of that time and effort into balancing the game beyond very simple mathematical changes to keystones? Let's get creative....you got an army at your command.... A great majority of the champions are worthless and mediocre, at very best. COUGH Maoki...I get that you're trying and I've watched the ALL CHAT videos, with that guy that wears the ugly cardigan sweaters...doesn't know jack about the game and you can tell that. Why not get the pros involved again with the game balancing? After all, it is how you were able to create such a beautiful game in the first place.

RIP all ignored champions....that will never be viable in time for the start of Season 6....and never will get the attention...as their dev department scrambles to fix "Dynamic" que for the next six months.

Rito, please try and convince us that you are not just all about the money…..with changes that actually make some logical sense. End of rant....for now....

Rant Disclaimer: I paid little to no attention to my grammar in this rant...as most of it was done with furiously intense key strokes….. All grammar Nazi’s may check their bag o flames at the door.. kthx.

I would love to hear what your thoughts and opinions are…

Buh bye now

YeetForYousoro1/15/2016, 11:16:25 AM5 votes

So what you're telling me is that you in no way read what they were doing with dynamic queue? Let's go over your points 1: playing solo against a five man isn't fair and how is that accurate to skill Answer: That won't happen, if you read their multiple posts about dynamic queue you would have discovered that, much like the normal matchmaking system before dynamic queue, pre-mades get matched with similar numbered premades, and solos get matched with other solos and maybe a duo here and there. Example: you're solo. you find that the enemy team is a pre made 5. That means you're with a pre made 4 and matchmaking couldn't find a similar elo pre made 5 for that team to face.

And 2, If 3 silvers and 2 diamonds queue, that's not fair and ruins the ranked system cuz they'll end up platinum Answer: Could silvers and diamonds duo in the old queuing system? No? But wait I guess you thought that would suddenly change. Just like you couldn't invite your diamond friend to duo with you to get you through your bronze 1 promo before because the invite option for them would either be greyed out or non-existant, so would be the same with dynamic queue. Example: you and your three friends are bronze 1, silver 1 and silver 4, and you try to invite your diamond friends to help you win. you can't, so you'll have to invite other bronze/silvers to queue, as nobody can be more than 1 tier apart from one another (I.E that gold friend of yours can't come either because bronzes are around)

In other words: Dynamic queue isn't logically impossible to blend into the ranked system and replace the old queue system. However, I previously thought it impossible that someone would post on the forums without reading any of the multiple articles posted explaining, notifying, keeping updated on, etc, this new dynamic queue. Please, next time you're going to criticize Riot for something, do your reading first

Dread Pirate Jah1/15/2016, 9:46:48 AM1 votes

totally

Dread Pirate Jah1/15/2016, 12:36:43 PM1 votes

I've read allll theee notes buddy....even watched the all chat...with those bafoons in ugly cardigan sweaters....

but where I really saw the potential...is when I played 10+ games today....and got put with at least 5+ full on premades ....whilest I still got the normal trolls and afks....Is it that hard of concept to grasp?

So, your math and ritos math is broken...just like thunderlords...and just like 85% of the champion pool isn't viable rolling into season 6.

How many times did you get placed with that most amazing DUO queue ever whilest solo queuing ? pre-dynamic? Allot...right?

Same thing happens here..you will be against plenty of full on premades...forcing you to either make a premade or not soloQ at all.

HENCE my main point.....RIP SOLO Q.

Premades vs Randoms??? Go back to World of Warcraft kid.

Dread Pirate Jah1/15/2016, 12:39:08 PM1 votes

Thanks for the super awesome challenger nidallee skin though...pink pixels op.