Ivern makes a better support...

Don't get me wrong! I know in jungle he can steal a red buff and head to top lane for a gank for a cheese play. But after testing him as a support...going full tank. I won't go back to anything else. He has the poke in bushes, he has the bush field makes it damn near impossible to target lol If incoming gank comes or tower dive just throw a bush behind tower and ally goes in.

Level 5 go grab you a free red or blue buff really fast and have more fun at bot lane. Q- snare, slow works amazing. Play him with a Jhin it's forever snare.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2324228060/34553032?tab=overview

As for Daisy I know she can be dumb as nails sometimes but hell, she basically makes good interruptions against their team when they trying to make plays.

And if you need a good laugh I was able to 1v1 a J4 with my items alone o.o.