It is okay to be one tricky pony?

Lupxel··2 votes·2,125 views

What are the advantages and the bad points? Beeing OTP means that you play the same champion no matter what role?

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Serevas5 votes

It's perfectly viable, and some people would even encourage it because you learn a lot of aspects of the game without having to adjust much. If you play 2k games with Renekton, chances are you know the matchups for Renekton, how to play them, what to do at all stages of the game, and most important you'll know when you can take fights in each of these matchups.

The downside is in higher elo, and this isn't super relevant until like master tier and above, people will scout to see if you're in a game, and will ban your one trick. I see it all the time with players like Romanium for Renekton, iPav for Teemo, SSBM Hax for Twisted Fate. You get the picture.

Until then as long as you don't pick a top ban champion as your one trick you'll probably be fine. So don't one trick Mundo or Kindred, or one of those champions.

The Sword Saint2 votes

Difficult and dangerous, with potentially big rewards and big frustrations.

If you pick just one champion to stick with, you'll master their abilities, item builds, matchups, runes/masteries, and successful mid-late game patterns to the point where you will start to naturally rise in rank as long as you consistently get your champion. Most other players will be picking from multiple champions in each lane to fill out their 'pool' and try to pick a champ that fits the match well by filling out their team comp or giving them a strong lane matchup.

By default, they will almost certainly have less experience with their champion than you will have with yours (after you've stuck with your one trick for a while of course).

You will find yourself out trading them because they don't understand all the various tricks your champion can pull off to come out ahead, you will kill them when they don't expect it because they only had a rough estimate of your power spike timing and exactly how much damage you can do but you will have learned that, for example, if you come to lane at level 9 with x item and the enemy isn't a tank you can instantly flash ult combo ignite them to kill squishy champs who have y health or less from 100-0. You will get away from more ganks and survive many more situations that feel like certain death because you will have alot of little tricks ready where any one of them could see you to safety if the enemy doesn't stop them. You will perform your job better in teamfights and in mid game map moves then the other champs because you have a very clear understanding of when you are going to hit your strongest and weakest points over the course of the game, and how to change your play accordingly while other players struggle to keep trying the same things when their power level shifts.

So, you will rise to the point where you, on your one champ, are at an even skill level with everyone else... but heres the thing: everyone else will be performing at the same level a you except they can do that with multiple champs.. which means that you're going to start getting a lot of counter matchups and team comps built against you except unlike before you won't have the performance edge against them. This is where you will level out unless you can master your champ to the extent that you can consistently take down people who actively trying to counter you, and have the knowledge and ability to do so, at a significantly high level of execution.

This is the best case scenario where you get the time to play many many games without the meta shifting to screw you over. At any time an item can be added or changed or certain champs can come into or leave the meta and the result could make your champion much harder to play successfully. You could play a champ like kha six or akali when leesin suddenly becomes strong and have to deal with his built in stealth reveal and ability to instantly kick you off of any target you jump on for example. In such a meta, you'll probably not be climbing and may even start falling unless you hit up the normal and custom games and actually do some training specifically to be able to handle these shifts in the meta. On the upside if you stick through and the meta shifts again to something more favorable for you, it's like you went through the hyperbolic time chamber and have returned much stronger.

The 3 biggest dangers of being a one trick are:

  1. You might get frustrated with a meta that makes your champion hard to win as and give up on your one trick or quit league/go on a break.
  2. If your champion has mechanics or patterns that are known to not be favored by riot (for me that would be old fiora, current akali), there's a chance that your champion may get a significant gameplay or visual rework that you may love (like I did with fiora) or that you may hate (....like some other people did with poppy)
  3. Your champion may become commonly banned. If this happens you may as well give up on ranked until the situation changes and just go practice in normals or ranked teams. A one trick has by definition one trick, getting banned out every game means you'll have to dodge a lot of lobbies because you simply cannot compete on the same level as the people you are queued with when not on your one trick.
Ralanr1 votes

I thought being an OTP is that you relied on one mechanic religiously. Like Blitzcrank hook.

1374341 votes

Depends on how you define OTP. There are OTP champions, and OTP players (which I think is what the OP was referring to).

Lupxel1 votes

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Depends on how you define OTP. There are OTP champions, and OTP players (which I think is what the OP was referring to).

What is a OTP champion? I thought that there was only OTP players? What are the diferences?

Skias1 votes

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I thought being an OTP is that you relied on one mechanic religiously. Like Blitzcrank hook.

I think he's referring to horrible binary champions like Blitzcrank, Volibear and Trundle. They are barely champions, with Blitzcrank taking the most "skill". Trundle and Volibear are what you play when you've got 8 FPS and you dont want to spectate.

ThePartyLeader1 votes

Once you get to diamond I do believe people will just ban your champion if they know your on and since you can't play anything else you either dodge or lose. At least that's my understanding.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

OTP means that you main one champion in one role and thats what you can do but nothing else.

for example, i play jungle and my main champions are volibear and shyvana and even tho this isnt exactly ONE trick, its still relatively limited and in a teamgame, if the enemy team bans or picks these champions i have some trouble.

jaymc11301 votes

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OTP means that you main one champion in one role and thats what you can do but nothing else.

for example, i play jungle and my main champions are volibear and shyvana and even tho this isnt exactly ONE trick, its still relatively limited and in a teamgame, if the enemy team bans or picks these champions i have some trouble.

^ There's absolutely nothing wrong with One Tricking, but you do have to make some sacrifices to do it. Its a super effective strategy for ranking an account up and has been for years, but you limit your ability to play the game on the whole. Its also kind of required of you to be less selfish as a one trick artist and accept that you will need to dodge on occasion because other players will want to play your role or champ and will take it and this is perfectly fine, don't be a dick to them if they do. Just wish them luck in the next lobby and inform the team you will dodge and tell them to take note of the enemy team comp so they can target ban in the next lobby.

I personally find a new champ to one trick each season to diamond. Its a fun way for me to learn a new champ and a bit of a challenge to see if I can do it on something I'm probably not as good at playing as my mains. A lot of players find it distasteful to only play one thing, but the reality is that specializing in a role is actually a better way to improve at the game overall because you become accustomed to your champ and don't have to think about playing them, it becomes reflex, which allows you to start to consider the game on a strategic level in game freeing you up to learn to make better in game decisions. If there is a one trick artist in my lobbies I will always let them play their thing, they are probably pretty good at it.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

only problem is that you limit yourself to soloQ and can absolutely not play tournaments and leagues, which is what i would want

jaymc11301 votes

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only problem is that you limit yourself to soloQ and can absolutely not play tournaments and leagues, which is what i would want

This is certainly another drawback. It's a big part of the reason guys like Irelia Carries U will never make a pro team. He's good at just the one thing and if you take it away from him he tends to instantly get put on tilt when he was already going to put forth a sub par performance anyways. It certainly isn't a mistake to label it as a "solo q only" option.

Randomonium1 votes

Good: You can climb really quickly in rank because you can master one champion relatively very quickly.

Bad: Once you get to a high rank you are stuck playing only that champion because you are bad with every other champion. You also only have a particular skill set of knowledge, preventing you from helping others with champions except your one-trick.

HEAljvLykd1 votes

One trick pony is a good strategy to climb quickly and it becomes an art form mastering One champion. Onpy bad thing is you are trash when that role or champ is taken/banned.

Paroe1 votes

A one trick pony is just a big old phony.

you should be capable of doing the following in ranked:

  1. Playing passively with a tanky champion (top lane)
  2. Utility supporting (know where to ward, at least one champ with high utility and not necessarily a support)
  3. Jungle
  4. Be capable of using a ranged champion effectively (at least one auto-attacker)
  5. Know a majority of technical knowledge to play an enemy champions weakness.
Aazzlano1 votes

says the level 29

Paroe1 votes

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says the level 29

What does my level have to do with anything? A warrior who is only capable of thrusting attacks might have very powerful thrusts, but a warrior who is capable of overhead and sweeping attacks will win more often. Especcially once the one trick is discovered.

Aazzlano1 votes

because you clearly don't know what you are talking about. you want people to be specialized in 2-3 roles at the max. and you want those specialized to be in the best fitting roles. if you had a team of 5 people that could all play all roles decently well and played whatever in any given game they would get stomped every single game vs a team who focus on the roles they are playing. yes, if you had a team with 3 people who all ONLY played a single role yeah sure you would be at a disadvantage.

and either way if you do your best on that champion (and that best is actually well) then people are very likely to let you play that role even if you are a lower pick. people want to win and if that gives them a good shot at winning then great.

Paroe1 votes

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because you clearly don't know what you are talking about. you want people to be specialized in 2-3 roles at the max. and you want those specialized to be in the best fitting roles. if you had a team of 5 people that could all play all roles decently well and played whatever in any given game they would get stomped every single game vs a team who focus on the roles they are playing. yes, if you had a team with 3 people who all ONLY played a single role yeah sure you would be at a disadvantage.

and either way if you do your best on that champion (and that best is actually well) then people are very likely to let you play that role even if you are a lower pick. people want to win and if that gives them a good shot at winning then great.

... Sir or madam. Capable of, and specialized, are two totally different things.

Ya see, theres this thing in solo and duo ranked called "Pick order". By not being CAPABLE of playing at least 4/5 positions, if youre last pick and your "main role" is taken youre just going to drag the rest of your team down because you never bothered to learn how to play other roles.

If youre Capable of going through the motions, regardless of whether or not your actually good at the role, you wont drag your team down when your "main role" is picked. I had a game recently where i was forced to jungle (im a top and support main....) because our last pick threw a hissyfit because "I CAN ONLY PLAY TOP YOU FUCK".

I iterate again, one trick ponies drag your team down when they dont get their trick. You might be the number 1 tryndamere in the world, but if you cant get your tryndamere because of pick order or someone else in the team gets your tryndamere, you might as well AFK, DC, or flat dodge because youre not going to be useful.

Aazzlano1 votes

so what is your point? if he is better than you at top then he should go top. I don't see the problem. if you are that bad of a jungler that he could have jungled better then he is both better than you at jungle and top so.... and if you are better of a jungler than him then let him play his best role. sure one trick ponies MIGHT be bad if they don't get their pick but that doesn't necessarily mean they always will. I mean I just had a ranked game a few days ago where I forgot to mention I OTP eve jungle and someone else took it, and I was 'forced' to go a different role. I ended up completely carrying the game as Ziggs and they even said "good thing we let Ziggs go mid". and either way if I had the number 1 trynd in the world on my team it would be in my best interests in a ranked game to have him be playing tryndamere, no? if that is his best champion (or only champion he can play well) then that should be taken into consideration when making the team comp. if it isn't then its our own fault.

if you seriously think 'pick order' is more important than communicating and making a winning composition based on the players you have on your team then you should never play ranked.

Spoofghoul1 votes

OTP is generally not a great idea, i have a buddy who does this, he is pretty bad at this game but only plays xin zhoa and manages to do well with him because well its the only thing he plays. But then the opponent picks it or i gets banned nd he goes 0/99/0

. . .

Anyway if you are going to be a onetrick pony at least do it on a usefull champion like bard or malphite. Becasue no matter the meta champions with utility are always good.

Lets take my example of that friend who plays xin only, guess what will happen once devourer gets nrefed or removed or has a weird counter to it all of a sudden.

SaltyKracka1 votes

It won't make you a pro, but you'll generally do well.

FacerollKatarina1 votes

Katarina I love being a one trick pony :3

ltmetal1 votes

With the upcoming changes to ranked, being a one trick pony (or more specifically, a two trick pony) is about to become way more viable. Realistically, if you learn 4 champions that can be played in two positions then you can never be banned out and you will always get one of your two positions.

Duke Anax1 votes

Bein a One Trick Pony won't be a problem as long as you are one tricky pony. Hecarim

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Sure, why not. Practicing one punch 10000 times > practicing 10000 punches once.

Usually champs that can fulfill more than one position are usually the best things to one-trick, so that's more filling flexibility for you. (though go ahead and be "mid only", no one's stopping you) Preferably something that can fit into as many comps as possible. Against "countered" matchups? If you can one trick you would eventually know how to deal with those.

Though the bad part is, obviously, when your main is banned/taken. Which means it's a good idea to have a backup plan. Trolls will obviously go edgelord mode and ban your main, if you one-trick something popular or something that's a common ban expect your main to be gone, and so on.

And yes, being OTP really means that, though some champs have very different playstyles depending on where they go. For example, Lulu mid/top gameplay is drastically different from Lulu support.

Speaking of Lulu support, that's pretty much what I only play. Raka and Sona are my backups, and if support is somehow taken (it rarely happens, like 1/30 games or something), then I just fill and feed like a madman and hope that my team does something since they called that role.

Bârd1 votes

It's fine, but you need some backups that you play almost as well, if not AS well, as your main.

Ex. I am a Bard main, but when that is a bad idea (or Bard/Support is taken) I run Zyra in mid/support/jungle, Zilean mid/support, trundle top/support, and Heimerdinger top/mid

insaiyanbacca1 votes

imo OTP isn't that great but say like 2-3 champs is fine, because if you can only play 1 champion and it gets picked/banned you're screwed so if you have 2 other picks that you're at least good enough with along with your one trick you should be fine.

IcyPepper1 votes

It's risky.

There are just some champions that can't succeed in certain roles, and certain lane match-ups. But, there are some who can.

Darius, for example, is from what I've heard a decent counterpick against assassins in the midlane, but will feed against mages who can kite him (anyone with slows or mobility, essentially).

If your "support" Rengar doesn't get some early cheese kills, you're not contributing much to the team. A support mummy, however, brings a lot more to the table without needing AP to do their job.

It's risky, and honestly I wouldn't recommend it. I'd recommend keeping your pool at a manageable size, though, to stay somewhat specialized.

Paroe1 votes

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It's risky.

There are just some champions that can't succeed in certain roles, and certain lane match-ups. But, there are some who can.

Darius, for example, is from what I've heard a decent counterpick against assassins in the midlane, but will feed against mages who can kite him (anyone with slows or mobility, essentially).

If your "support" Rengar doesn't get some early cheese kills, you're not contributing much to the team. A support mummy, however, brings a lot more to the table without needing AP to do their job.

It's risky, and honestly I wouldn't recommend it. I'd recommend keeping your pool at a manageable size, though, to stay somewhat specialized.

2~3 main champions who can multi-role are usually the best. Onetricktarics or ponies who can ONLY do ONE role withe ONE champion are where problems start to arise.

IcyPepper1 votes

That's fair.

Taric mains are going to have a significantly more difficult time than, say, Annie mains. Versatility is an important factor.

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