So my friend bought Kalista and started playing her. His first game he goes over 30 kills, but he couldn't carry us to victory.
I just went 14-3 Lucian, and I couldn't carry the game. It seems to me that kills do not matter as much, which in my opinion undermines the point of this game.
So has anyone found "the answer" to winning games in this new patch? Is it dragons, barons, or both, regardless of kills?
Destroy the enemy nexus. :P
while getting fed does help your odds winning at the end of the day this is a team game and if your team cannot work well together you will lose against a better more organized team. my advice just learn what you should be doing and try and help your teammates out sometimes people get tunnel vision an they just need someone to help knock them out of it
So I went 37-12 and I still lost.
I really think that the team that has their first outer turrets taken down first actually have a power spike because of the shields. They are able to turtle and ramp up. essentially bringing your lead to a halt.
Part of the problem is people don't like the Baron buff, when in actuality it seals the deal if you have super minions.
I just hate this patch because it seems if I totally own, it doesn't matter.
Please fix this Riot.
It seems to me that kills do not matter as much
I'm glad you have come to this understanding. You can start to get out of bronze now.
So I went 37-12 and I still lost.
I really think that the team that has their first outer turrets taken down first actually have a power spike because of the shields. They are able to turtle and ramp up. essentially bringing your lead to a halt.
Part of the problem is people don't like the Baron buff, when in actuality it seals the deal if you have super minions.
I just hate this patch because it seems if I totally own, it doesn't matter.
Please fix this Riot.
This is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I've ever read.
To "carry" games in short you must have great objective control, map awareness and team fight presence while being the one on your team who is doing the majority of the "heavy" work. Killing is often associated with that. Being a carry for the game especially in solo queue often times requires you to be a shot caller so that your team can be in the right place at the right time doing things to make the most of your power during that stage of the game.
Often when I carry I ping a lot and direct where to go next. If my team is mostly in another lane and are at a stale mate with the enemy, I tend to split push to divert them to my lane. Being the carry and winning games is all about making the right moves in the situation. You wont make the right move all the time but the more often you get into the situation to CONTROL the game with your presence, the more experienced you will become at it.
I honestly recommend watching some Vod's of some LCS or Worlds s4 play. You can pick up a lot of good habits and basic objective control strategies and scenarios. Just remember one thing, if you see that you are carrying a game and you are in the lead, DO NOT THROW. If you feel your team is a little lost on what to do next, take control (politely but firmly) and make sure you capitalize on your lead. Too many times in lower elo will players in a lead get lax and let the game run on for waaay too long.
Before you know it you have a ton of kills, ton of assists, not many deaths (or many) and yet you still lose. The game is still a team effort no matter how well you do individually, you need the other members to at least play well enough to not throw away their leads. Otherwise, for every mistake they make, your tasked with cleaning up, and sometimes thats too tall an order.
this game isnt call of duty. the reason you kill people is so that you can kill turrets uncontested. if you have 30 kills and they aren't rushing to defend their nexus turrets then it means you're chasing people around the map instead of fighting in key locations and you aren't shoving minion waves properly.
Kills have never mattered when considering how to win. If your team is dumb and doesn't know how to force objectives correctly, it doesn't matter how much gold you have (which is all kills translate to directly).
Consequently, it seems you don't lead your team to do the right things with your advantage. Or, possibly, someone on the enemy team was just as fed and did a slightly better job of pushing objectives.
As for your last question, it just depends. Ideally, the design is supposed to prevent any one objectives from being the most important. It's all about the situation. You can give up early dragons (ideally) if you are taking something else for it. If you are fed and not winning, it's because your end game strategy is either flawed, or just being shut down by opponents.
LMAO Riot actually made a patch i think earlier this season to prevent snowballing laners to carry the whole game. Exactly the opposite of what you want.
I believe their point of view is that League of Legend is a team game and should be won over team effort rather than individual success in lanes.
You being that fed (32 kills) should allow you to help you obtain objectives a lot faster than the opposing teams. They can't contest dragons or barons, nor can they really defend tower because you can kill them easily.
If you do not know how to utilize your advantage to proceed to win a game, I am sorry to say but you don't really deserve the win.
