Recent Warwick Change

SpiceWeasel69·12/11/2014, 6:30:30 PM·5 votes·1,150 views

Why does Riot add items/features that makes a Champion over powered then nerf that Champion as opposed to removing/modifying the items/features?

Look, I am happy you want to make jungle more "fun". But you decimated TWO key abilities of Warwick:

The speed boost needs to be 10 seconds because its on a 22s CD and its required to put down a jungle camp w/o dying, spamming potions, and taking far too long.
The damage reduction on his ultimate is insane. He's supposed to be able to come out of nowhere and kill someone (at half health or less). Now he needs to wait to rank three to do that.

Cant you rebalance what you added rather than subtract from Warwick?

17 Comments

S H A Y C 012/11/2014, 7:49:22 PM5 votes

What i dont get is that warwick was just fine until the new jungle item...which made him a little over powered. So they nerf both him and the item? warwick was barely on the radar outside of bronze until this item...so nerfing the item seems to be a logical course of action, so why hate on warwick?

nevermind i figured it out....he outshined lee sin for 10 seconds and riot had to fix it

xJLx MCHammer12/11/2014, 6:31:35 PM2 votes

If only one champs does well with one item why need the item, it's just the champion

Niting12/11/2014, 6:37:43 PM1 votes

No they overnerfed him a ton. They nerfed his ult (quite substantially, basically 75 damage gone from every level), they nerfed his key jungle item (also quite substantially, he lost 15 damage ON HIT, which adds to a ton) and they nerfed his smite. His smite was actually the only reasonable nerf because this actually attacked the point on why he was op. He now can't proc the true damage every hit when he ults anymore. The damage reduction and his on hit from devourer was too much imo.

RIP WW item 3070

Shadow Gilgamesh12/11/2014, 11:45:31 PM1 votes

Honestly, it would be hard to change an item that one champ is overly good with to just remove that character's overly great synergy with it, so I agree that SOMETHING probably had to happen to WW himself. But they made 2 of his abilities 60% of what they were at early levels (W at all levels, ult at rank 1, and even at rank 3 it's still significant at 13-14% weaker), and that seems like a MASSIVE overnerf.

I think his W should rise back to the old 10s as it's leveled and his ult should still be it's old max, even if it's weaker at rank 1 and 2. That way he's still relevant late game, but not a snowball machine as soon as he hits level 6 and gets 1850 gold for his full jungle item.

Kingsgrave12/12/2014, 4:24:15 AM1 votes

The nerf didn't really hurt all that much. He loses 70 damage at rank 3 from his Ultimate. He can't keep people AS buffed forever anymore. So what? He is still a hyper sustain jungle clearing monster of a tank champion.

Marshmallomancer12/12/2014, 7:41:17 AM1 votes

Probably because changing one item or one summoner spell potentially affects every single champion in the game and would therefore be much harder to balance for...