Is Gnar Overpowered?

Fiorinol·11/16/2014, 12:49:26 AM·3 votes·2,589 views

Question. I've been playing the little guy quite a lot for a while, he's tons of fun. But for some odd reason in the last few weeks, he's gone from never banned to being the most banned champion in League of Legends. I remember people complaining about how bad he is, even after Riot tweaked the Boomerang.

Did Riot nerf all the other top laners to the point where Gnar is considered worthy of a ban every two games? Knowing how Riot balances the game, I'm expecting Gnar to be Olaf'd. I don't see how they can balance his kit without making him way less useful than he currently is.

28 Comments

FalconPawwwwnch11/16/2014, 1:20:12 AM5 votes

He's really broken in high elo

Pretty much autowin at this point

EndlessSorcerer11/16/2014, 1:29:18 AM4 votes

He's a champion who requires skill, timing, and strategy to play while being a strong teamfighter and a good ranged bully top lane. People complained about him being weak when he was released because no one actually knew how to play him then and didn't have experience with his matchups. Now that people are learning how he should be built, how he fits into a team, and how his lane matchups work, he's recognized as being a strong and versatile pick. I'm not sure if he's worth banning (I've never had issues with Gnar's in my games, but I've not played against anything higher than Platinum Gnars, my usually champions can survive laning against ranged bullies pretty well, and I don't mind cowering in safety from lane bullies until I'm stronger than them), but he can be strong when played well.

If he's being picked or banned by pros, there are probably a lot of people just following the bandwagon and copying the pro players.

If you have trouble against Gnar, I would recommend picking Irelia Maokai Chogath Nasus Tryndamere Yorick

Yorick and Tryndamere can withstand Gnar's harass early, beat his Mini form in trades easily, and get away from his Mega form. Cho'gath can easily harass down Gnar with his W and sustain through Gnar's poke. Irelia will just outtrade Gnar's mini form without much effoct after you level up W and get a Sheen assuming you play it well. Irelia, Maokai, Nasus, and Cho'gath can all susain through Gnar's damage and easily set up ganks with their mobility and CC, which should allow them and their jungler to easily burst Gnar.

Sacen11/16/2014, 1:08:25 AM4 votes

Not to me as it seems.

Kowe The Ewok11/16/2014, 2:34:12 AM3 votes

Gnar is a champion which punishes bad decision making. Something you'll find a lot in the league.

Many people in lower elo/MMR have no clue what timed aggression means and completely ignore Gnar's rage and their own position (e.g. being near a wall).

Gnar can easily be counterpicked and outplayed, yet so many people - even at Gold I - fail to bother checking his rage before going all-in.

I can't count the times I killed guys simply because I was ~97 rage and 400 health, and a 600 health Ryze thought it was a good idea to flash right on my head.

At the same time people tend to outpick themselves, there are such great counters against Gnar: Vayne for example. She wins all trades against Mini-Gnar, and once she dodged Mega Gnar's W she can simply outkite/ chase him over the whole toplane taking 3/4th of his health upon a singly Mega-Tranformation.


Gnar is a strong champion, but not overpowered. There's just a vast amount of people who have absolutely no clue how to play against him - and Gnar is great at baiting.

Hayaishi11/16/2014, 1:24:41 AM3 votes

Yes he is.

Builds full tank in lane and out trades you anyways.

Is impossible to escape from or chase.

Mega Gnar is completely overpowered in teamfights.

He just needs to be gutted/olaf'd, i don't know why Riot keeps making these overloaded manaless champions.

Remlap122311/16/2014, 7:10:03 AM2 votes

The reason why Gnar has an inflated ban rate is because he's quite good in higher ranks. Gnar was piss on release, and after adjusting his values and giving him some playtime, people figured out you can make some really clutch plays with his rage. I don't think he's ban worthy, but like Zed, he's scurry in the right hands.

EvilRabbitt11/16/2014, 1:26:03 AM2 votes

I only build Hyper Gnar, so I don't know.

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Kowe The Ewok11/16/2014, 2:49:16 AM2 votes

Gnar is predictable like Draven. (Q) He has a 15s timeframe every 2 minutes where he can use his ultimate. At any other point he's a squishy champion with only 3 abilities.

If you think it's wise to to not fight Gnar in the 1.45 where he is vulnearable(1), but in the 15s where he is not AND fail to dodge his W AND make the mistake of face-hugging a wall I honestly believe you deserve to die.

(1)(Unless you're champion like Vayne who actually beats him even harder ocne he is evolved)

Other than Draven there's no champion who is as predictable as Gnar. Gnar has great damage and potentital, but it's all up to his enemy making sever mistakes.


People just fail to watch his rage-gauge. Would you 1v1 a Rengar with full ferocity? Or a Trynda with full rage? Do you think it's smart to stand next to a wall when facing a Poppy or a Vayne? No? So why is Gnar suddenly overpowered if you're making TWO severe mistakes at once?

Gnar lives from poor decision making, sadly many people don't learn and cry for nerfs instead.

Worgslarg11/16/2014, 1:26:25 AM2 votes

He's strong in good hands. What happened is people started seeing him doing well, and spent the time to learn him.

Lishe11/16/2014, 11:31:37 PM1 votes

He's a champion that can go full tank and top the damage charts, so yeah, I'd say so.

Evil Jester11/16/2014, 1:44:44 AM1 votes

Teemo is supposed to counter him but is seems like every time i go against him Gnar outplays me. his slow counters my speed boost, he can leap away as I start autoing him, and blinding him is useless as he can just spam that boomerang over and over, as far as me being able to outrange him, like I said he just spams the boomerang witch out ranges my autos.

chumbler11/16/2014, 2:10:32 AM1 votes

Considering he is manaless and made at any time since the release of Garen and has seen no significant nerfs, yes.

5 Stacks GG11/16/2014, 2:57:16 AM1 votes

hes freelo basically

Long Dong Wukong11/16/2014, 11:30:10 AM1 votes

Everyone else seems to think so.

He's a free kill to lane bullies in my experience. Most meta picks don't shit on him, but what's he going to do to something with a gap closer and high damage like Wukong or Pantheon?

I don't think I've ever lost lane to a Gnar. I haven't played against Diamond 2+/Master/Challenger Gnars or anything, but low Diamond and Plat people aren't anything special on him.

Fiorinol11/16/2014, 1:19:21 PM1 votes

The thing, I've been watching Master/Challenger folks playing Gnar, and he's definitely not a game-winning champion. If anything, even players in Diamond 1 keep placing themselves in situations where they get killed easily by him. I see Zed/Akali/Fizz as being tons more ban-worthy in solo-queue.