"That is the 19th time Elise has been first picked this tournament"

Sunrift·10/16/2015, 10:31:46 PM·1 votes·651 views

Out of the first 54 games at worlds, Elise was first picked 19 times... that is a staggering 35%. I'm not insisting Elise is OP, and yes she still falls off late game, but her early game is extraordinarily overbearing and too safe. To put it in perspective, the next champion with the most first picks is Lulu, 8 times (14%).

Everyone is talking about Morde and how Riot destroyed him (fair enough), but I just wanted to bring this to everyone's attention. Oh and also, Gangplank has been ban or picked 100% of the time, every game. It's not a fun experience when your favorite champion is weak, but it's also equally tiring to have one that is permanently banned. I hope Riot acknowledges the problems with these champions and addresses them before next season.

8 Comments

Dreadlocks10/16/2015, 10:36:22 PM4 votes

Seeing as Elise was legit at the bottom of barrel for the entire season 5, I'm not upset by this at all. Their is always going to be a "best pick" even if 2 are strong picks, 1 is generally better than the other for w.e given reason. However I do agree with you on the second half though, GP being pick ban is kind of ridiculous. I think this applies to solo Q too with champions like Darius. I'm no Darius main, but id be a little upset if i couldn't even play my favorite champion just because riot made him so strong that hes banned every game.

Uiraya10/17/2015, 12:02:48 AM3 votes

If all champions' "effectiveness rate" (a value that is incalculable but it's like winrates plus intelligence) were between 49.9 and 50.1, and there was only one jungler with a 50.1 effectiveness rate, that jungler would have an overbearing first pick rate too.

There is ALWAYS going to be someone at the top. Always, always, always, always, always. There will ALWAYS be a #1. The question that is never asked when these kind of bitch threads come up is, is this #1 pick a problem? Being #1 is obviously not a problem by itself because there will always be a #1. So ask yourself (and post your findings if you come up with anything), what is the problem with Elise being first picked a lot? If Elise was nerfed out of the game (like she has been for the past two seasons) would there then be equal representation among all other junglers? Or would #2 simply get promoted?

Elise being the #1 pick is a statement. You have yet to post a problem. The description you allude to (early game jungler who falls off late) is matched by many champs who have similar power curves and mirrored by many others who are "allowed" to have ridiculous lategames when their early game is "bad" (and when these early games are perceived to not be bad enough, they are witchhunted relentlessly). Are you proposing that all (or any!) of Elise's wins would have been losses had she been disabled? If she isn't that much stronger than the #2 jungler that she's getting wins where she shouldn't be, the issue of which one gets picked more is mostly academic.

Barrels are fucking dumb, that's on point though- gp either knows how to barrel and wins or doesn't and flails uselessly then ragequits

Trylobyte10/16/2015, 10:50:36 PM1 votes

She's first-picked so much because Lulu, GP, and Morde are nearly always banned and the pool of high-tier junglers is very slim, so everyone wants to get their hands on her.

Penns10/16/2015, 10:57:01 PM1 votes

I think the only reason for that is because she can easily dive level 3 tho lel.

Old Man Teeto10/16/2015, 11:45:04 PM1 votes

Jungle/Flex/Support SHOULD be consistently picked first/early.

When a solo lane is picked first, blind, there's an issue.

Slamurai Jack10/16/2015, 11:55:03 PM1 votes

Of course she's getting first picked so much. She's the strongest jack of all trades jungler atm and jungle is the safest role to first pick. If it wasn't her, it would just be somebody else.