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Is Kha'zix ever getting buffed?

DangerousDoc··28 votes·5,489 views

Is Kha'zixKhazix ever getting buffed? (Riot Please, atleast tell me you have plans for him)

The last time Riot touched Kha'zix was on November 20th, 2014. And that was a nerf to his Void Spikes. It increased the cooldown to 10 seconds from 8 seconds. I feel like Riot has completely forgot that Kha'zix even exists, and doesn't even mind that he is weak right now.

He has horrible clear, and nearly dies his first clear of the jungle. And he can't even assassinate his targets. I understand that you are trying to "nerf" the jungle, with the tank champion buffs and the cinderhulk enchant, but I feel like you are buffing every other champion BUT Kha'zix.

I'm not asking for anything huge, just a something that will make his FIRST clear less awful. (Maybe decrease the cooldown of W, and increase its heal?). I also want to see him be able to assassinate someone. (Maybe let isolation have a shorter range, so its easier to assassinate his targets)

I'm not asking for much, you don't even have to do anything at all. But I feel like Kha'zix is in a bad spot right now, and Riot keeps ignoring him. I would just like to see some buffs to him, because you have buffed almost every other jungler besides him. It also doesn't help that he is has a horrible early game.

I am just wishing to see this little guy in the jungle again...

Thank you, and see y'all laterz.

52 Comments

TehNACHO10 votes

I think he needs a rework as a whole. There's no way his current Fighter-esque Assassin kit can work properly with his Isolation mechanic without being completely over the top (as we've seen whenever Kha'Zix is powerful (Tanky Kha'Zix op)). There's just way too many variables that Kha'Zix is not in control of to utilize his Isolation correctly.

ScurvyNave6 votes

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I think he needs a rework as a whole. There's no way his current Fighter-esque Assassin kit can work properly with his Isolation mechanic without being completely over the top (as we've seen whenever Kha'Zix is powerful (Tanky Kha'Zix op)). There's just way too many variables that Kha'Zix is not in control of to utilize his Isolation correctly.

I have to agree his entire kit is very hard to balance and having a champion based on eliminating anyone 1v1 quickly is a tough thing to regulate power. Assassins in general must suck to balance.

TehNACHO7 votes

I think Assassins can work to balance if we stop focusing so hard on their damage all the time. Damage is just a tool for them to do their job; granted a very integral tool for their role, but a tool all the same. It's an Assassin's utilities that define them. Stuff like Kha'Zix's Isolation damage sounds brilliant if he had a mechanic to actually hunt down somebody while they're roaming (and thus most likely isolated from any protection), like Rengar's Ultimate's extended vision (this one of the many variables that Kha'Zix is not in control of that I mentioned btw, his kit does nothing to actually reinforce his isolation mechanic or make it the least bit reliable). If they eventually rework Kha'Zix so that his Isolation damage is actually reliable, then I can see a future for Kha'Zix where he is both powerful and not incredibly toxic in terms of design.

DangerousDoc1 votes

I completely agree with you. I think they need to do some little things to his kit, and he will be good again. Or stronger than he is now.

A CONFUSED KID2 votes

I think something that could work for kha six is a change to his evolutions providing one which grants vision within a range of isolated champions, maybe as part of let evolution. or if kha zix were able to deal higher amounts of damage to isolated target with a nerf to his minion wave clear, so he can only assassinate people who really are isolated. At the moment you can't really go anywhere except near champs or turrets if kha zix is ahead and its very hard for him to find opportunities to kill.

A Miss Fortune4 votes

I agree, Kha'zix really doesn't feel like an Assassin sort of like Rengar. I think Kha'zix should just have all of his abilities looked at and almost all of them changed so he feels like an Assassin rather than a Fighter-Assassin-Tank-Mage.

177A Bleecker St2 votes

I think he is op. He is my main and my favorite champion. Sure he was nerfed but it's so fun to go into a fight, ult e and q their adc and 2 shot him and then e to the next target and 1 shot him. If he gets any buff i will climb with him to high heavens

Trump4Reelection2 votes

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I think he is op. He is my main and my favorite champion. Sure he was nerfed but it's so fun to go into a fight, ult e and q their adc and 2 shot him and then e to the next target and 1 shot him. If he gets any buff i will climb with him to high heavens

I'm not trying to be rude but what division are you in, because bronze and maybe low silver I can see that being possible still, but anyone with any game sense can basically bully kha'zix in any posituon he gets played. he has almoat no favorable mid lane match ups, he has no favorable top lane match ups at all and his jungling requires he build a purple>red item path or else he cant farm because if he farms with anything else he cant gank because he isnt healthy enough, and if he buys blue he can gank but literally cant clear a single camp if he takes 40% or so damage because it becomes too risky. Any jungler is going to see where you ganked walk into your jungle and probably kill you before your surrounding lanes can collapse.

Now you can roll with full tank on him and go where ever you want and do nothing in particular when you get there because you have shit base damages and high cool downs.

Now if his Q applied on hit effects and he had a better cool down on his E slightly higher base damage on it too, and they reverted his isolation nerf from forever ago so that people dont have to be like 800 units away from something to be isolated then it might be good. Or at least alter the mechanics of being around minion/monsters and the target so you can get more isolation in lane then he might have a decent chance at becoming a mid damage duelist/tank that can dive back lines.

DangerousDoc2 votes

I don't see how you think he is OP. If I play against a Kha'zix, you can bet your butt I am going into your jungle to kill you. Because I know once you get your second buff, you will be recalling, and you will be low, so it will be a easy kill.

Another thing, your so squishy that if you jump into a teamfight like that, YOU WILL NOT BE COMING BACK OUT. I don't care what you say. If you build full damage on him, and jump in like that, you will not come out alive. sorry.

You may think he is OP, you may have your own style, but others feel like he is weak. Thats why I want some sort of buffs.

Widder881 votes

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I don't see how you think he is OP. If I play against a Kha'zix, you can bet your butt I am going into your jungle to kill you. Because I know once you get your second buff, you will be recalling, and you will be low, so it will be a easy kill.

Another thing, your so squishy that if you jump into a teamfight like that, YOU WILL NOT BE COMING BACK OUT. I don't care what you say. If you build full damage on him, and jump in like that, you will not come out alive. sorry.

You may think he is OP, you may have your own style, but others feel like he is weak. Thats why I want some sort of buffs.

I think he is op too. You don't know where he is in his jungle. You can use wards to spot him, but he can use wards too for protection. And Kha'Zix should not jump "into teamfights". He has to poke before teamfights, and has to jump onto isolated targets. Poke+assasination+escape it is so much he can do.

Maybe he is high risk-high reward now, but it has to be like that. At Worlds he was low risk-high reward and it was boring as hell that he was picked or banned 90% of the time. Better nerf Lee Sin btw!

DangerousDoc1 votes

You do realize that the last worlds was season 4, and wasn't season 5. Which means that the jungle was wayyyy easier. and his poke isn't that great, I don't evolve it, maybe thats bad, but I just feel like it is weak, even when evolved. And for the " and has to jump onto isolated targets. " In teamfights, NO ONE is isolated. You can be 100 miles away from a minion and you still aren't isolated.

Overall, I do think he CAN be strong, but he is weak early, and people can abuse that. I can also pick other junglers, that feel the role of Kha'zix much better. My opinion of course :D

All I want is a little buff, doesn't have to be a rework, just something that makes him reliable, and not a risky pick.

bizzle893 votes

It'f funny. You never played Kha'Zix this season (i checked on lol op) and you say, he is op. The other guy is bronze 3 and says he is op (sorry but in your League everything can work). Guys really... Just try him out versus good players and then you can start talking about the subject. I stopped playing Kha'Zix, because he is useless, when it comes to teamfighting. The only thing you can do is, take out splitpushers, because they are isolated. You'll never see an isolated adc on high elo.

kcStranger2 votes

I think part of the problem is that the setup of the enchantments to Hunter's Machete isn't friendly to AD casters. Compare Warrior to Magus:

Warrior: 40 AD, 10 armor pen, 10% CDR (1877 gold value) Magus: 80 AP, 20% CDR (2373 gold value)

On the surface, Magus is a clearly superior item to Warrior. I think the problem is that AD bruisers like Jarvan/Rek'Sai/Vi are naturally well-suited to the jungle (though all have been nerfed recently), so part of the balancing act is that they get a worse enchant. The problem is that AD casters like Kha'Zix have a play pattern more similar to AP junglers than to bruisers, and they sorta need the better item.

That said, this doesn't address your particular point about his first clear. At absolute minimum, they should revert the nerf to Void Spikes. Maybe give his base stats some love, too. I was thinking of picking him up, actually (I think he's cool, and he was one of the first champs I experimented with when I was learning the game), but he's just too weak to justify it.

bizzle892 votes

I think one of his weak points (not the most important) is the ultimate. Rengars stealth lasts 7-12 seconds. Enough time to get to an enemy without being seen und with a surprise effect. The 1 Second of Kha'zix is just nothing. It's really weak for an ultimate...

DangerousDoc1 votes

I agree. I think the 1 second is just so you can get his passive again. Not to be able to gank or surprise an enemy

Profirix4 votes

Kha'zix's ultimate, relative to its cooldown is very weak. To be completely honest, a max rank cooldown of 20 seconds is more in line with its utility. Lets think about it: What does his ultimate do for the 100 mana cost and the 80-100 second cooldown?

  1. 2 1-second stealth + a 40% movement speed boost during that time.
  2. It reapplies Kha'zix's passive - up to 190 damage per proc (lets face it, you wont be building AP)
  3. If you evolve it, it adds an additional second of stealth per charge and adds a third charge.

So what is the issue here?

  1. There is a delay between the first and second casts - i think its 1 second. This is an opportunity for the enemy to cc you into oblivion.
  2. Kha'zix's passive is MAGIC damage. For an assassin who scales primarily on physical damage, this ability will never scale for you. Plus all the penetration you build on Kha'zix does not modify his ultimate at all.
  3. Is the evolved ultimate worth it? Q and E are almost always evolved by level 16. W provides a decent slow with a large area of effect. Why would you ever pick evolved R over W? They removed the primary reason for using evolved R (damage reduction in stealth).

So what does his ultimate actually offer?

  1. short reprieve from combat with his stealth
  2. a total of up to 380 (570 evolved) MAGIC damage if you stealth and auto after EACH ultimate cast.
  3. Obviously his ultimate has the ability evolution passive attached to it.

Is he viable?

At low ELO, yes - because players do not understand the concept of map awareness and often will roam alone. That being said, Kha'zix is not rewarded enough for effectively isolating targets, especially in team fights.

At mid-high ELO, no - especially mid-late game when teams understand that Kha'zix hits like a wet noodle, even when built full AD if his targets are not isolated. Anyone with a tank renders Kha'zix useless - even when they are isolated. The decision to remove Kha'zix's damage increase based on percent missing health was a bad one. Kha'zix should win 99.9% of all even duels if the target is isolated, and I feel like with all of the nerfs to this champion that just is not possible.

Wasn't he created to be a counter-jungler? It is way too risky now to try and counter-jungle because you do not have enough health after your first clear to gank the opponent. Not only that, but jungle monsters prevent isolation.

Visigoth2 votes

Every time Kha'Zix got played in the pro scene he was nerfed. Spring Split Season 4 Kha'Zix was always picked, they completely gutted him. After a 10 damage buff and some time to adjust he gets played towards the end of summer and during worlds. He still wasn't a strong pick, but was rewarding for skill and good mechanics and decision making, similar to how Vayne is. Then they nerfed him again. Then buffed jungle so now he can't clear, and he got no compensation.

DangerousDoc1 votes

preach brother

iMaB3AST2 votes

I recently played him in jg and his clears and sustain are horrible. Not to mention u barely do damage when a targets isolated. The only time Kha shines is in the late game where u have ur q w and e evolved. Increasing the heal and lowering his mana costs could be a possible buff.

DangerousDoc2 votes

Someone finally understands me

Trump4Reelection1 votes

Allow me to explain riot logic to you.

Every season ever - we want to put more gold experience and strength into the jungle position To encourage the play of carry type junglers.

Patch x.1 comes out carry junglers break loose shit storm over the entire game and do exactly what was intended they carry from the jungle.

Patch x.2-x.10 nerfs to said carry jungle, and cost efficient carry jungle items.

Patch x.11-on minor buffs to different types of carry junglers and items, few item balances and reworks and some unsung god arises in the jungle.

Last few patches of the season spent trying to under zealously nerf said unsung carries and then ultimately nailing the coffin shut on them. kha'zix was the s4 recipient of this style. WW being ine of the big s5 recipients along with the devourer enchant, similar to release lizard elder in season 3 which got nerfed primarily because like the old s2 wriggles and early s3 they were so powerful and cost efficient they got abused onin lane.

I still miss 25 AD 30 armor 18% lifesteal wriggles. RIP :(

DangerousDoc2 votes

Love The Name BTW

I do wish they would allow jungles to carry a game. Because where I am in ranking, (Bronze II) No offence to anybody that is in there, but if you give a kill to a laner, they won't snowball off that kill. Its impossible. So I wish you could carry as a jungler, but I guess thats not what Riot wants.

Trump4Reelection1 votes

Oh see, now in bronze and silver you should absolutely kill steal everything. I carried my own ass out of bronze with jarvan 4 and kayle (season 3/early s4 before j4 was meta and right before AP kayle was the midlane shit when you went nashor> lich bane the alex ich way) basically you need to play bronze and silver on a champion (or group of Champions) that become so incredibly smothering and over bearing tbat people cant handle it. I used jarvan because this was all pre nerf (hes still strong as hell) but at the time he had way higher % armor pen on q at early levels, an aoe slow and shield, flag gave armor and attack speed passive provided huge burst, ult helps heavily isolate champions and entire sections of map which actually prevents a lot of engage, and all you had to do was build an ancient golem and a hydra and then stack armor and hp with banshees and merc treads and you had an incredibly high burst, sustained fighting damage and ridiculous tankyness. You effectively become impossible to peel, and in almost eveey situation you can solo an adc in bronze on Him. For the current meta you can still use him, but rek'sai and gragas are pretty solid for fucking bronze up. Especially gragas just ult the carry into tour team all day. knock ups are the most powerful form of CC because they cant be effected by cleanses or tanacity. Knock up champions are always useful.

FastAsHeck1 votes

i agree 100%. i think that he needs a full rework, maybe even new skills (why does he have a ranged aoe spell?), i think the way to go is focusing his kit around evolutions. so he can be a unique champion that can literally adapt to any game. that could be his main strength and what sets him apart from other champions. of course, he should be weak where he doesnt specialise. what i have in mind is for example evolving q would be completely focused on 100-0ing enemy champions when they are isolated, while evolving r for example would specialise him in being a decent tank and teamfighter.

DangerousDoc2 votes

I like the way you think!

I think you should be able to choose what type of player you want to be. An Assassin Or Tank? But the evolutions don't have a big difference in what you want to build. So I always Max Q, and evolve: E,Q,R. But if you added some tanky stats to, lets say his R, you can evolve that first, making you more tanky. Or Evolving Q for "Tons Of Damage". (I pretty much copied what you said LOL) I like this, I didn't think about this, I think this would make Kha'zix more viable, especially in the tank meta we are in.

I really don't want a rework, I just want some little buffs. But I wouldn't be mad if he got a rework, I would just like to see his jump, isolation mechanic, and his evolutions stay. The other abilities can change or be buffed in some way. Or changed completely. I don't work at Riot, but I just want Riot to see this, and look at Kha'zix, and if they don't think changes are needed, that's fine. I just want them to look at him, and think about his strengths and weaknesses, and wonder if he needs some buffs, or a complete rework altogether.

Even Kha'zix thinks he should be changed. He does say "Change...is good." So how bad can a little change be?

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

What if they gave him 8 evolutions and 6 points to use? Instead of just getting the chance to upgrade an ability, there could be two choices for each ability, like you could give w the aoe or you could make it go farther and slow more. You could put two points into one ability but then you're frontloading all your evo points into one thing, or you could spread them out over all his abilities for a more rounded distribution.

DangerousDoc3 votes

I don't really like this idea, I just don't see it doing well, and being way to complicated for something that should be easy. But, I don't know, it may be the best idea ever, as you have a right to your own opinion, I just don't think that this would be great. But I do see what you mean with more evolutions, I think it could be good, just not right now. Thats all. If you think I am wrong, please tell me, I would love to hear more opinions. The main reason I posted this was too see if Riot was making any changes to him, because I personally think he is weak right now, but thats me.

AFK Push1 votes

The best way to do this would to actually allow khazix to be a high damage bruiser rather than a full damage assassin. So instead of a build like item 3074 item 3072 item 3071 item 3035 item 3158 item 3026, he would have a build like item 3074 item 3071 item 3158 item 3143 item 3102 item 3083 etc. If he got really fed then go glass cannon, but in most situations he should build tankier etc.

Abyssphere1 votes

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i agree 100%. i think that he needs a full rework, maybe even new skills (why does he have a ranged aoe spell?), i think the way to go is focusing his kit around evolutions. so he can be a unique champion that can literally adapt to any game. that could be his main strength and what sets him apart from other champions. of course, he should be weak where he doesnt specialise. what i have in mind is for example evolving q would be completely focused on 100-0ing enemy champions when they are isolated, while evolving r for example would specialise him in being a decent tank and teamfighter.

You are saying he should be a complete generalist, who can specialise to anything you throw at him. That is horrible for balance.

I know it fits him, and I wish he could be designed that way, but generalists are horrible for the game and tend to get gutted because they fit into everything and are either as strong as the specialists in their favoured scenarios (current Lee Sin) or weaker than them (Elise). Kha has a lot of design problems right now but increasing the amount of situations he can deal with or rather, the team comps you can pick him into, will probably make things worse. He'll either be a dominant pick or worse than he is now.

AFK Push1 votes

I think they are scared of him being a dominant pick again in the jungler or mid lane.

DangerousDoc1 votes

xD

I don't think that, I just think they have forgotten about him, and/or they think he is fine (WHICH HE IS NOT)

FreshMeat7071 votes

WTF do you mean he dies his first jungle clear? I have played Kha COUNTLESS times, he is my fav jungler ever. It's not about "Oh hey look at this something happened with one ability and now he can't do shit." And the fact that he can't assassinate? Dude, that's ALWAYS how i get my Kha kills. I feel while i was reading this that you're calling him unplayable. His Isolation bonus isn't a problem, and it's not his handicap. If you build correctly then he can easily track down kills, sometimes even 2 lane members at once. I took down a Tanky Sejuani in the jungle without any support or falling below half health. A TANKY. SEJUANI. That is not easy, trust me. His kit is good for me, Isolation just gives me an added edge to chase down low-health enemies trying to run away down their lane. Khazix isn't broken. He's just a little tricky to master.

(Sorry if that whole song-and-dance sounded like i'm being toxic, i'm not that kind of person. It's just that seeing one of my fav champs getting called the equivalent of worthless just ticks me off when you could easily go 20/0/10 with him.)

DangerousDoc3 votes

I don't find you toxic xD. You have the right to your opinion. But I mained Kha'zix in S4. And During season 5, everybody else is getting buffed, while Kha'zix is just there, doing his own thing.

I'm not calling him unplayable, i'm saying that why would I pick him, with the others junglers, like Nid, who does his job, but better.

His isolation is great, but i'm talking about when you try to gank someone, its rare to get isolation because they are so close to their minions, and by the time they are far enough away, they are under tower.

Last thing, i'm not calling him worthless, i'm just saying he is WEAKER than he once was. In Season 4, we saw him getting banned and picked in the LCS. Now he doesn't even get picked. (I don't know if he has been played or not) I'm not saying that a champion has to be played in the LCS to be viable, i'm just saying he has fallen off, compared to other junglers.

I'm really happy that you main Kha'zix, but I don't see how you can think he is the strongest jungler. And if you think that, you have to atleast see some weaknesses in his kit.

bizzle891 votes

Sorry is that your Profile??? http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FreshMeat707 You play versus beginner bots and want to talk about getting kills with kha'zix. Really man...I don't get this forum anymore...

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

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Sorry is that your Profile??? http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FreshMeat707 You play versus beginner bots and want to talk about getting kills with kha'zix. Really man...I don't get this forum anymore...

I get tons of kills with Kha all the time. https://imgur.com/gnQRFQ5

bizzle891 votes

Well then you are one of the few exceptions. Maybe you're too good for your League even if its Diamond. There will be always some people doing well, but when you check the winrate in diamond or platin Kha'Zix' is one of the lowest.

DangerousDoc1 votes

Kha'zix has a winrate of 46%, and a pick rate of 4.75%

FreshMeat7071 votes

I do play PVP thank you very much, i have not lately because my friends have not been on and i prefer to play on teams with people i know and respect over jackasses like you. So, you know, my decisions will be mine and if you don't respect them, you can leave now.

Original Quitter1 votes

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DangerousDoc2 votes

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Poptart Evelynn1 votes

As someone who mains Kha this season I don't agree with the points you pointed out.

  1. His clear is perfectly fine. I can teach you how to clear properly if you ever want to know how to clear the entire jungle with no issues.
  2. He can 100% assassinate targets easily and even destroys tanks in 3 seconds if they are isolated. The issue is the requirement for it to happen.
  3. Kha is one of the strongest champions early game for jungle picks.

I'm not trying to be a dick when I say this but all the points you pointed out are just you not being that great at Kha'zix.

Kha's main issue is team fighting. The moment when the teams start to group and do big fights Kha is extremely weak in tightly grouped team fights. He can't get isolation off. He can't tank for shit. He definitely can't weave in fights until level 16 with evolved ultimate and by that time everyone has oracle lens.

His kit relies too heavily on Isolation. <------ real issue.'

Add me in game if you are interested in how to play Kha properly to avoid all of those issues you pointed out. I'll even play a Kha game with you to show you.

Build = item 3723 item 3117 item 3074 item 3035 item 2140 Core items, rest is situational. I prefer cheese route = item 3723 item 3117 item 3074 item 3035 item 3071 item 3508 item 2140 Runes = Flat Ad Marks, Flat Armor Seals, 5 Flat CDR Glyphs, 4 Scaling Magic Resist Glyphs, and Flat Ad Quints. Masteries = 21-9-0 requires 4 points in Sorcery and points into Bladed Armor/Block.

DangerousDoc3 votes
  1. You can clear the jungle with trailblazers fine, but then he can't gank because he has no CC, besides W, which is a skillshot

2.) IF THEY ARE ISOLATED. That means that you have to find them in the jungle, but if you want to gank, its almost impossible to get isolation. They are always next to minions

3.) If I ever see a kha'zix pick, I am counter jungling the first clear, because his clear is not great his first clear. He also can't gank they greatest either, but it is possible to gank, because you do quite alot of damage.

Your not a dick xD. its all opinion

Teamfighting will never be good for him, unless he is tanky

His kit relies on isolation too much - I agree completely. Wish they would change this, but I guess that this makes him unique

If I said anything you don't agree with, please tell me. I just want Kha'zix to be played more. According to lolking, he has a 46% winrate, and is picked 4.75% of the time. I don't think he is great, and that popular. That is why I want some buffs, not huge buffs, but some buffs

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

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  1. You can clear the jungle with trailblazers fine, but then he can't gank because he has no CC, besides W, which is a skillshot

2.) IF THEY ARE ISOLATED. That means that you have to find them in the jungle, but if you want to gank, its almost impossible to get isolation. They are always next to minions

3.) If I ever see a kha'zix pick, I am counter jungling the first clear, because his clear is not great his first clear. He also can't gank they greatest either, but it is possible to gank, because you do quite alot of damage.

Your not a dick xD. its all opinion

Teamfighting will never be good for him, unless he is tanky

His kit relies on isolation too much - I agree completely. Wish they would change this, but I guess that this makes him unique

If I said anything you don't agree with, please tell me. I just want Kha'zix to be played more. According to lolking, he has a 46% winrate, and is picked 4.75% of the time. I don't think he is great, and that popular. That is why I want some buffs, not huge buffs, but some buffs

  1. His passive is an extremely strong tool on ganks.
  2. When they over extend they have to back and when they are backing they are isolated.
  3. Kha is the strongest duelest in the early game jungle 1v1. If an enemy even dares to fight kha early in his jungle they will regret it. He ganks extremely easily. Manage wings properly. Run in, when they use mobility move or flash then use wings. Never wings early.

He isn't picked much because of the amount of skill required to do well with him. As you said you struggle with clears and ganking but that is a myth due to lack of skill.(No offense here just being honest).

Trailblazer is to speed up the clearing not make it easier. I tend to gank lightly early if they push or counter jungle then start rushing warrior. As soon as Kha obtains warrior and claws he becomes a monster in terms of power spiking. His level 11 claws > wings evolve route makes him almost god mode if he snowballed even the slightest in terms of power. This is when he is strongest.

Late game if an ADC or APC is isolated it's a one combo kill. E > Q > Hydra in Q animation > Auto attack = dead.

I agree he needs buffs but these are not the areas he is need of buffs.

Orangesilk1 votes

I just wanted to say that 20-11-2014 is NOT a long time ago.

The last time Yorick was changed (excluding global changes, as in changes for ALL champions) was in 11-12-2012. And it was a bugfix.

Before that was the 18-9-2012 and it was a NERF.

DangerousDoc1 votes

I'm not saying it was a long time, but I'm saying he hasn't been buffed in season 5, like many other junglers.

Drukyul1 votes

lol 4 months isn't even considered a short amount of time on Riot's timetable; more like infinitesimal

SoisauceCCH1 votes

Riot has proven time and time again they have no idea how to balance their game, with Assassins being the most prominent display of ineptitude. They literally cannot pull their heads from their asses long enough to realize that Assassins who are designed on bursting people down from 100%-0% with no room or time for counterplay is inherently lazy design. In fact, they have the gall to say those types of assassins are "healthy", as is the case with Leblanc and Zed, two prime contenders for "look how keyboard smashingly frustrating these two champions are to play against!".

On the other end of the spectrum, there are the "assassins" so weak that they literally cannot compete because they lack the aforementioned 100%-0% capabilities; IE KZ / Evelynn. These champions, Riot just refuses to acknowledge, as they slowly but steadily neuter half of the champion pool, while making sure their champions with the big "flashy" plays are consistently top contenders.

Don't get your hopes up. Riot has become Comcast; if it doesn't make them any money, they'll just do what they want, because they have a monopoly on the MoBA genre.

DangerousDoc1 votes

I agree, you look at akali, leblanc, and zed, and they can kill someone before they realize it. But Kha'zix can't do that

Merxamers1 votes

i love playing khazix, and i've had some incredible games with him (especially last season), but he does need some love and care.

If i pick Khazix in a ranked game (i'm in silver 2 right now), what will happen is the other team will take Volibear or sejuani. Since Khaz has to go back after the first clear, i know that the enemy jungler will

  1. Have a much stronger gank presence than me
  2. Win every 1 on 1 against me before i'm level 11
  3. Have a good chance for a double kill if they countergank

One problem i've had with Khazix for a while is that he's incredibly dependent on his evolutions to do anything; before his Q is evolved, there is no chance he will assassinate anyone. Before his E is evolved, he has laughable mobility. His R evolution is underappreciated i think, but is lackluster.

It's frustrating when, even having built all damage, i can't assassinate an isolated target before level 11. I still like playing as him, and i know he can be played well (like every champion), but he is in a relatively weak place.

Seriod1 votes

I don't know if he's getting buffed or not. Right now in 9/20/2015, he does NOT DO HORRIBLE, but I do agree that he needs a buff. I used to play him excellent, before he got nerfed a lot.

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