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Everyone's complaining about New Runes but I'm just here...

mosaickle·11/14/2017, 8:43:38 PM·65 votes·2,536 views

...enjoying the changes.

Yes, everyone's complaining about things that might be overlooked by Riot and is currently destroying everything else, but these changes reminded me of a video by UberDanger about how LoL is no longer the game it used to be.

I won't spoil too much of the video if you wanna go look it up, but essentially back when he started (which was around the time when I started), LoL was a game with infinite possibilities and little to no meta. You can pick whatever you wanted wherever you wanted with whoever you wanted and create the most absurd team comps; thus his earlier videos being things like 'Full Revive Bungaloo', 'Shield Team', 'Medic Team', 'Knockback Crew'. Most of his earlier stuff had him making weird and niche things work, especially with 'stray scalings'.

A while back, Riot addressed why in older champions, AD champions had some random AP scalings that seemed out of place. The most absurd example would be old Sion. Old Sion used to have a point and click ranged stun and an AoE shield similar to what he has today, but both scaled at 100% AP for some time. Sion, an undead zombie warrior with a huge axe, must be building AD right?

No! For the fun of it, AP Sion was absolutely insane for a substantial period of time. But it was fun and refreshing to see absurd builds work in the most quirky of ways. Sadly, for the most of the past 2 or so seasons, the meta has come into play and Riot (probably due to esports) started to help solidify the meta, either by reworking weird quirks of old champions or by getting rid of certain scalings. Then, all champions started to have very little diversity for play. One kind of build and playstyle for let's say Ezreal was significantly better than another, or one build for Nasus was better than the other.

But now with these new runes, I feel like different playstyles have come back. It's exciting to see who you might lane against and what might work or not. Not knowing what to expect and potentially being bamboozled by something you've never thought of is exciting and refreshing to see after so many seasons of solidified meta. Supports HAVE to be bot. Fighters and Tanks HAVE to be top etc etc etc.

All in all, what I'm trying to say is, the new runes really opened up way more diversity in the game. For instance, who would've thought Ezreal, traditionally an ADC turned jungler, now's most OP build has got to do with on-hit gold income? I feel like, once the absolutely, undeniably broken things in the game gets toned down, the new runes will make LoL what it used to be, a playground for anything to be possible.

36 Comments

Eedat11/14/2017, 9:36:11 PM34 votes

Until what always happens happens. People find the best 1-2 keystones for a champ. The champ gets balanced around picking the best keystone. The alternative strategies become absolute shit. Lather, rinse, repeat.

bbb11/14/2017, 9:27:52 PM11 votes

The thing is that everything Riot does, there's always going to be people who don't like it, "warn" that they're going to quit League because of the changes when in reality they are just going to get used to it, because it wasn't as bad as they thought, but they just don't like change. Remember the HUD change? Several threads with hundreds of upvotes saying "could be the end of League", example https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/PVs5NHoW-the-new-hud-could-be-the-end-of-league No matter how good or bad the game will evolve from a change, people will complain no matter what. I expect downvotes.

Sp33d Zer011/15/2017, 3:17:20 AM10 votes

How dare you have a different opinion from the boards! Downvote!

Jeanne fan club11/15/2017, 7:16:14 AM7 votes

For the first time in years I feel like I'm new to the game again, its been a wonderful experience.

I feel like most of the people on the boards are just professional malcontents at this point

Blåbæret11/15/2017, 1:09:43 PM5 votes

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...enjoying the changes.

You're enjoying 5 minute games? K bruw, you're the 0,1% minority then.

ChuShoe11/15/2017, 3:10:19 AM5 votes

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All in all, what I'm trying to say is, the new runes really opened up way more diversity in the game. For instance, who would've thought Ezreal, traditionally an ADC turned jungler, now's most OP build has got to do with on-hit gold income? I feel like, once the absolutely, undeniably broken things in the game gets toned down, the new runes will make LoL what it used to be, a playground or anything to be possible.

Not really at all. I don't understand how this opened up new possibilities, because the only thing I see that's remotely "diverse" is ap jax, 1shot W. I don't understand how on earth these new runes opened up more playstyles other than what's definitely going to be nerfed.

You realize in their video talking about the new runes, they say you can do some crazy stuff, like; Playing twisted fate as a roamer! playing evelynne as a snowballing ap assassin! playing gnar with a free frozen mallet at the start of the game (because nobody complained about that before the preseason)! playing nasus as a farming split-pusher!

That's literally what they did BEFORE preseason. Plus, juggernauts have no spot in league anymore. It's all about the snowball right now (which is what everyone complained about before preseason) also towers are made out of jizz tissues.

SailorSeal11/15/2017, 12:21:07 AM3 votes

I feel that people that complain about the new rune system are the vocal minority, because I've seen much more praise of the preseason than I have complaints just by going around and asking buddies how they're enjoying it. The Boards kinda skews things a bit, I think.

Troll for Trump11/15/2017, 1:27:46 AM3 votes

All in all, what I'm trying to say is, the new runes really opened up way more diversity in the game. For instance, who would've thought Ezreal, traditionally an ADC turned jungler, now's most OP build has got to do with on-hit gold income?

Yeah, well the new runes also wiped the entire juggernaut class out, and axed off some of the champs with more unique playstyles like Ivern. It added something but took another thing away.

In addition, Ez jg predated the new runes.

The new runes did not add more diversity. They made the game look smoother and feel smoother. Having both runes and masteries was redundant. But so far, there has not been more diversity, and the pigeonholing nature of the runes reinforces that.

Deunne11/15/2017, 9:11:26 AM2 votes

Dunno why people hated Zoe when her teaser came out,its riots game, League is riots playground,yes there are people who take it seriously and yes some are so laid back they can play another game while playing LoL, but all in all we're riding along with riots development, back then they where a little tiny small company now they're known world wide from what used to be a game made from and old Warcraft3 engine to an entirely new more smoother and grander looking game, riot is not afraid to put controversial changes to the game, as long as its fresh and new. I copy paste this every time I see someone complain in the chat about pre-season 8

UpDownLeftRightAB11/15/2017, 12:33:57 PM2 votes

I think it's actually more pigeonholed in the long run. Rather than being able to have different masteries and runes, we now just have different keystone as the major contributor. Less Choices overall that didn't ADD any new builds.

Lucky Moniker11/15/2017, 6:56:07 PM1 votes

Sure it’s easy to find cute cheese builds right now but almost if those will be nerfed to uselessness before long.

Also I would argue diversity has taken a dive as most people are just playing the new OP meta champs, But I guess that list has grown longer than the number of bans now so at least you know SOMEONE in the game will snowball to that point.

GGLineaR11/16/2017, 3:02:15 AM1 votes

There were more problems with lethality on release than the new runes. (still are, imo lol)

Full Tank Jesus11/16/2017, 6:49:47 AM1 votes

I wish they'd just get rid of runes. Zed's shouldn't have help killing someone at lvl 3 with an execute rune, tanks shouldn't get healing and live with undying grasp. It should be played on their skills, items, and summoner spells. Stop making new champs, get rid of the runes, and start balancing the game.

Nado Dodger11/16/2017, 7:14:59 AM1 votes

Previous runes and masteries had so much more customization. Now you are forced to pick a certain route.

Blue Moon Wolf11/15/2017, 6:52:24 AM1 votes

Same. Honestly the only thing that's bothering me is the new Blue essence system, and that's only cause it feels like it takes forever to get any sort of pay off (Which Riot said may change). I remember why Riot decided to wait till preseason to put these up, cause they want to use preseason to get the runes in a good spot and said they are likely going to change some runes, remove other runes and even add new ones if they see a certain group of champs who are not getting any runes that fit them.

We just have to wait for the changes to come through. I mean for god sake, we are still on the rune release patch. Give them some time to come up with/ test changes before jumping down their collective throats and saying that they aren't doing anything.

PokladnicaZla11/15/2017, 7:11:14 AM1 votes

I had a fed Hecarime dive me (as Soraka),Jhin and our midlaner (cantrecall who) at base under the last mid turret The damage,the horror

ItsMaybelline11/14/2017, 9:34:29 PM1 votes

I feel like LoL needed to be broken for a while, so i look forward to the ridiculous cheesy shit people come up with.

Wráthful11/15/2017, 11:30:06 AM1 votes

ppl whine on the BE and OE changes not on the runes rofl.

Shilay11/15/2017, 2:50:40 PM1 votes

Well, it is true that people really looove complaining about new stuff. I personally love preseasons because everything is a chaos and everyone has to start learning all the changes. It's so fun to be able to look for new strategies and see others do the same.

But it is true aswell that eventually the best runes for every champ will come out and the meta will be "fixed" again. Like that other guy said over there. [sg-janna]

I just hope all these changes are just a beggining. Reworks like Evelynn's and new champs like Zoe, Orn or Kayn are adding a lot of diversity to the game, so do the new runes. I guess they are trying to move the game to a more diversity-of-playstyles-friendly level again, but with having grown so much, it is a damn slow process.

It also looks like, maybe at some point, they will add another rune tree (?) Idk, they still have to improve the new system with the feedback they are receiving!

Glad I found a positive point of view in this whole sea of desperation [sg-kiko]