WHY THERE IS NO OTHER ITEM CHOICE FOR UPGRADE OF QUICKSILVER SASH?

delalb·10/13/2016, 6:10:33 AM·6 votes·865 views

For Quicksilver Sash, the only upgrade item available is Mercurial Scimitar, which is primarily designed for adc. But when u r facing enemy like Malzahar, Warwick, Skarner, the carries are forced to buy Quicksilver Sash, and for like ap or tank champions, Mercurial Scimitar almost gives nothing other than the active to the champion. Should riot consider to expand the upgrade choices for Quicksilver Sash? like having other items which can give ap, cdr, hp, resistance, or any other meaningful stat to different champions, no matter he is an ap, tank, support or any role? Thanks.

17 Comments

Anonagon10/13/2016, 6:13:45 AM2 votes

You're going to get downvoted by people who think that Zhonya's is somehow equivalent to Mercurial despite the fact that Zhonya's is worth fuckall against every suppression in the game.

But there should be. There should be some kind of way for a non-AD champion to keep QSS in a 6 item build, even if the item is stupidly gold inefficient.

Aptest10/13/2016, 8:11:42 AM2 votes

how about we do the opposite? M-scimitar is a contributor to power creep. It gives 2 ADC stats in one item. We can just remove it. Make ADCs have a clearer choice: Safety, OR power.

Then ADC have choice: 6 item build with QSS which has safety, or 6 item build with offensive item which have power.

we know that ADCs can and will build QSS even without mercurial upgrade. So why not?

LankPants10/13/2016, 1:42:20 PM2 votes

Why is there even an upgrade for QSS? Taking QSS should be an active tradeoff, it has the most powerful active in the game. There is no reason why ADCs should get a super powerful item with that active attached.

Astôlfo10/13/2016, 1:43:49 PM2 votes

Because both stats have vastly different playstyles and weaknesses. AP champions do not get to have QSS. Same reason applies to why AD champions do not get to have Zhonya's.

Edit: lel qqers who know nothing downvoting

delalb10/13/2016, 3:07:28 PM2 votes

i mean i have seen in the worlds that when team facing malz or skarner, we gonna see the team go 4 qss and then upgrade to M-scimitar when there is no more slot to upgrade ur item n get anything out of fighting power. i have seen in worlds, a ryze mid buy qss and then lastly upgrade to M-scimitar as last item, which literally gives no extra power to ryze, but a M-scimitar will give adc extra power, so is it balanced? if u r facing enemy skarner in the team, then everyone is forced to buy qss which can't be upgradable, so enemy will have 6 item fighting power, where ur team has like 5 item to fight against, which the qss is just for protecting basically 1 ultimate spell, is it fair? so as u guys bring out the zhonya issue, i would like to say for ad assassins, they literally have no very powerful life saving item for them except like M-scimitar, maw, gage, which the last 2 can still be overkilled with dmg. So their life saving skill is to use sidestep or dodge or ability that could help them (like talon stealth), whereas like kat or fizz they can jump in then press a zhonya button n he is invulerable for 2 sec, is it fair for ad assassins comparing to the ap ones?

SwiftKitten8810/14/2016, 1:40:30 AM1 votes

i think the best solution to to remove item 3139 and instead make item 3140 upgrade into a defensive item with HP or something that both AP and AD can use.

LXII10/13/2016, 8:17:21 AM1 votes

Uhh maybe because it would make all those champs you listed completely useless? Right now AP champs have to make that choice of having a QSS or another item, if they can have both what's the point of those ultimates?

the weeaboo10/13/2016, 5:01:32 PM1 votes

ADCs are the most at risk and have almost no health options whatsoever. So if they want to stay alive they need to not get CCd and they need life steal. Hence MS. Mages and tanks don't need this since they already have plenty of HP/Resist Items to choose from.

Arkale10/13/2016, 10:03:50 PM1 votes

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