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So are we pretending that we made LeBlanc balanced, Riot?

Haunt·5/1/2015, 2:01:02 PM·20 votes·1,752 views

You guys did the usual thing where you go, "Well, we nerfed her damage very slightly and meaninglessly, that will probably make people think she is terrible and everyone will stop playing her."

Yeah well uhh

It didn't work. She's still pick or ban right now. She needs real nerfs. We can start with a mana cost on her ult maybe? Or make it so if she presses q r it doesn't do a shit ton of damage even if she misses w and e somehow?

Wait wait don't stop reading yet! That's not all she needs! We could always revert that w buff that made is so there is about 3 seconds where she can't be doing anything with w when she has 40% CDR?

Seriously though. nerf LeBlanc for real please.

It is clear that nobody is paying attention to this post because this has gotten numerous downvotes but my comments explaining it are getting upvotes.

At least comment why you disagree. Most of this is just people saying, "she's not op. Because um, reasons."

51 Comments

taleofsonata5/1/2015, 4:15:27 PM7 votes

Ok backtalking a diamond ok.... well Im going to back up my comment with another diamond which is far more reliable than one diamond amongs many others. http://www.nerfplz.com/2015/04/2015-champion-tier-list-solo-queue.html Have you ever considered Tier List? Oh but wait tier list doesnt mean anything? Far Far Wrong in any competitive game Tier list is the most important thing in which player base the meta upon. Even LCS Player base their argument and comment on them. Leblanc is a high priority pick in competitive play thats for sure, she is banned almost all the time, same goes to zed, but they do have something in common, they are assassins. Assassins are strong in laning phase, solo things but they arent strong in teamfight and most of the time dont win games. The only Assassins that doesnt follow the same rule is Katarina. With a high win rate even after the nerf. Oh but win rate are all lies, that is true but that doesnt mean win rate are just pure blasphemy. This is why Tier list comes to play, its an analysis of many people on one specific champion. For exemple Cho gath:

Cho'Gath [God Tier Mid] - Cho'gath mid is pretty much the safest and simultaneously the most aggressive mid laner in the game at the moment. Although not that easy to land his spells early, he can zone very well. Additionally, once teamfights come around it becomes difficult to dodge all the rest of the things flying at you. This makes his AOE CC's extremely potent.

Tier list are very very accurate. Win List + Player analysis + elo + competitive play and many many other things to take in consideration.

So please let everyone have their own constructive comment and being diamond doesn`t mean anything if you complain.

Have you even seen a Lcs player complains OMG Leblanc is soo op I can`t do anything, very very false.

Diamond: OMG Leblanc is soo op she can burst me down cuz I play a squishy champion. Every1 call him, this guy is riight leblanc needs a nerf.

Bronze 5: OMG Zed is soo op cuz he use no mana. Every1 be like, is this guy a joke? zed is such a hard champion he needs more buff.

Drunk Rummate5/1/2015, 3:05:12 PM7 votes

She has an easy time winning lane but that doesn't mean she's overpowered.

TenSlashTen5/1/2015, 3:57:10 PM4 votes

you're still not picking cho/lulu into leb?

I don't even play mid lane anymore ... The champs I like everyone hates on in that lane since league of assassins brought back LEb/kat players I just quit bothering.

Don't even play AP janna mid anymore because of all the nerfs. Probably the W nerfs/passive was the nail in the coffin though.

Anyway dude just pick cho/lulu No one bans lulu anymore. Least not that I see when I play in diamond in KR or diamond in EU and diamond mmr in LAN/NA

Honestly you're a bit behind on the times complaining about a champ thats always lost to AP mid lane bruisers.

Diana/cho/lulu is literally her heaviest counter and since her silence removal katarina can even beat her easily once she hits level 9 lol

edit: also this comment section is a joke. What is this reddit? Youtube? Twitch? Seriously.

Sweetheart Annie5/1/2015, 3:53:43 PM4 votes

Itt: low elo shitters backtalking a diamond

The Bíg Ticket5/1/2015, 3:02:27 PM4 votes

She is fine, only strong at very high levels of play. You have to be very good on her in order to actually win the game. Yes she is very good in lane while also having huge safety from ganks and I personally do not enjoy playing against her but its a fact that her winrate has always been abysmal and that is because she doesn't really help a team win in soloqueue. Even in competitive play she ain't that easy to use for the less skillled players. Obviously Faker is an exception and he makes the champ look really op. As far as I know he is undefeated on her in competitive play. In soloqueue she is okay.

masterdragon4815/1/2015, 4:43:32 PM3 votes

I agree with you completely. She has incredibly high burst, VERY fast rotations, good wave clear, and is nearly ungankable. In addition, she gets to start every single fight she is involved in and even has the ability to disengage just as quickly. There is no counter play for dealing with Leblanc; there is only hope she doesn't kill you with her burst. If you didn't die and have a decent chunk of health left, stay in lane. If you are low, back before you die. All Leblanc has to do is wash, rinse and repeat.

And before people start up with the "if she escapes with distortions she can't burst you," while this is true, her fast rotations means that if the jungle isn't camping to the point of a 2v1, Leblanc will continue to apply massive pressure to the enemy mid laner. Not to mention early on anyone is a target for that much damage.

She is in the top 5 most banned champions in the last month. She is most definitely in need of nerfs.

SEKAI5/1/2015, 2:48:45 PM3 votes

The type of "this gets better as you get better" thing is never acceptable in any game, ever. UNLESS it's the very fundamental of the game where it's accessible and open to every player involved from the get go then it's absolutely justifiable. Such as Dark Souls' combat system for one (ignoring its some gear balancing issues here and there).

Otherwise it's just a shietty excuse to keep overpowered element in a game, I don't even know why Riot hasn't even realised this yet.

Mobility creep and overloaded kit really shouldn't be in LoL, if they want higher mobile or spammable champs, sure, they have to be practically near useless in most situations, save for some specific circumstances to be considered balanced really.

Cyber Mxlly5/1/2015, 7:02:19 PM2 votes

Im Probly Gonna Get Downvotes or Whatever Because Im Bronze 5 But LeBlanc Isnt Overpowered.... She Has A Very Stronk Lane Sure But She Sucks Moldy Butt Sauce Late Game If She Isnt Fed AF... That And If People Didnt Play Like Extreme Twits When They Lane Against Her And Played Safely And Knew What PINK Wards Are Her Passive Would Get Invalidated Leblanc Has Garbage Attack Speed Too so if you play somewhat Competent and play safe and out-sustain her then she cant really do anything....

Occams Raiser5/1/2015, 4:44:14 PM1 votes

someone has to be on top.

Abyssphere5/1/2015, 5:02:07 PM1 votes

LeBlanc isn't pick or ban. You can say a million things about her power level that I won't argue with but that's not true - not banning or picking LeBlanc does not lead to the enemy picking her and it doesn't lose you games (pick/ban champions only emerge when a team is at a large disadvantage should a champion be on the other team, and it WILL go to the other team if not banned from them). Statistically LeBlanc loses many more games than she wins, so you should actually be happier to see her on the enemy team.

Her pick/ban isn't even that high. It's 67% with 55% of that coming from ban rate. She is ignored in over 33% of games which is quite simply not pick/ban territory. The current pick or ban champions are Sejuani (90% pick or ban), Gragas (89% pick or ban) and to a lesser extent Hecarim (83%). Notice how those three champions actually win more games than they lose.

PandahHeart5/1/2015, 5:08:47 PM1 votes

I think she is fine right now with the tank meta. Laning phase is annoying because she has high damage and mobility. After laning phase it is harder for her to burst down champions like tanks and even some slightly tanky mid laners - Diana, Cho (especially with his silence), Kassadin, Morgana, Annie. They get ROD plus MR and she can't really burst them down. Plus, most Leblancs do not really build defensive except for an hourglass so she is still super squishy. Of course, if you lane against her with squishy champions, it will be more difficult, but if you have tanks as a front line she would either have to try to dive past them for the ADC/Squishy or try to flank. Now if DFG was still in the game, I think she would do so much better against the tanks but because we do not have it, it makes it harder for her to burst.

Also you can put her behind if you can get your jungler to gank pre 6. Just wait for her to use her dash (which has a 14ish second cool down) then have them gank if possible. Putting a Leblanc behind is obviously bad for her since it may be harder for them to catch up. Now I definitely am not high elo, but this is just from my experience in Silver. I watch higher elo matches sometimes and have noticed that early game she obviously does well still but late game, she is not as good as she used to be.

Unedible5/1/2015, 4:34:43 PM1 votes

I think it's funny that no one ever really complained about her before she was seen in the LCS. Ah well.