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Neeko E is the strongest non-ultimate CC Ability in the game; on a burst mage.

i4got2pull0ut·6/29/2019, 7:17:27 AM·62 votes·16,135 views

Even the most vanilla of consent designers can agree that Neeko's E, Tangle-Barbs, is a necessary piece of her kit to maximize the efficiency of her Q, Blooming Burst. On release, Tangle-Barbs needed to pass through 2 enemy units to gain the empowered root, the empowered root only effected the last champion hit, this felt underwhelming; If the ability was fired through a minion, Jinx, and finished on Elise, Elise would be hit with the empowered root (This was the example in the Champion Spotlight). Admittedly, this ability did need a buff; however, what we revived is frequently looked over without second thought.

On patch 9.5, the "Champion hit" condition was removed, the requirement to gain the empowerment was reduced to 1, the non-empowered root duration was buffed all ranks (This will be touched on later), and then there was a minor bug fix where the ability was disarming. Neeko was soon after hotfixed on March 11th, reducing her attack speed growth, her attack damage growth, and a base damage nerf on Shapesplitter, Neeko's W.

Originally, Tangled-Barbs had a .5 second root duration for the first target hit; the change on 9.5 was large, taking a CC duration from .5 all ranks to (.7 / .9 / 1.1 / 1.3 / 1.5). This means that even for landing the first root on an enemy champion grants you 2 stacks of Blooming Burst (Neeko's Q) on a champion, and landing the empowered root means you get off full duration from Blooming Burst. For perspective, here are the numbers for the empowered duration. (1.8 / 2.1 / 2.4 / 2.7 / 3). And yes, this means that Tangle-Barbs scales faster in duration then Morganna's Dark Binding.

The duration of Tangled-Barbs gives Neeko an almost nonpunishable combo in the early game. Currently, the champion is being flexed outside of mid lane about 45% of the time, meaning shes in mid roughly 55%. This combo feels even more debilitating if you are playing a melee into Neeko; the combination between the movement speed and clone from her her W, and her QE combo make for a very slippery lane bully, even into champions with a strong early all-in like Cammile or Aatrox.

This duration wouldn't be a problem if Neeko was maxing the ability last, but statistically (according to OP.GG, which is KR only) 95% of Neeko players max E second; additionally every website that offers Neeko guides (Mobafire was not used) say most matches max E second, but do not provide an easy statistic. Meaning that Neeko has a 3 second root available to her that she can aim through targets. The only other champion with a basic CC duration like that is Morganna, but Neeko's is better in a team fight because it effects multiple people, and has Dark Binding beat on missile speed.

In conclusion, please nerf Neeko. Thanks.

Sources: https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Neeko#Tangle-Barbs https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Morgana https://na.op.gg/champion/neeko/statistics/mid https://champion.gg/champion/Neeko/Middle?league= https://u.gg/lol/champions/neeko/build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPj48lmrynU

77 Comments

Akali is SO HOT6/29/2019, 9:29:06 AM45 votes

Veigar's E

RipReviveFkRito6/29/2019, 9:13:23 AM30 votes

fuck that shit, every champion they've released since 2017 has been broken, even the god damn reworks aren't playable half of the time, either stuck in instapick/ban or unplayable.

SEKAI6/29/2019, 7:22:09 AM14 votes

I agree Neeko's E is broken.

But nothing compares to Zoe and whatever she stands for, especially in the subject of broken non-ultimate CCs (such as her W and E).

KETSU06/29/2019, 1:32:46 PM14 votes

fiddle fear would like to have a word with you.

Illabethe6/29/2019, 2:13:54 PM8 votes

Sorry but it's not even close to a Morg Q, Veigar Wall, Fiddle Fear

Root is just a root. Not a Stun etc.

And once she gets momentum, Qiyana's Q is also going to be considered extremely broken CC; It's an almost spammable root, in the same kit as a knockback, a stun, and 2 dashes. The duration is low, but it can be cast twice in tandem, and can be recast about 4 seconds later AGAIN. 3 1 second roots are FAR more destructive than any single root, because they all have the opportunity to stop an action, where a 1 3 second root only stops ONE action.

That makes for up to 5 skill disrupters in a single kit.

Pika Fox6/29/2019, 2:05:33 PM8 votes

Veigar's E is a far better non ult CC.

4th3t0s6/29/2019, 7:25:50 PM7 votes

Veigar : I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!

Tranoze6/29/2019, 10:30:19 AM7 votes

It stronger than any other ultimate cc, not just non ultimate ability.

JinHae6/29/2019, 2:39:07 PM6 votes

Syndra E [sg-syndra]

Schenix6/30/2019, 2:41:56 AM6 votes

Veigar Cage, Zoe Bubble, Nasus Wither, Lulu Polymorph, Galio Taunt, Morgana Bind, Lux Bind (being played for it being a one point wonder for support in pro play), Fiddledicks Fear, Nocturne Fear, Syndra Scatter, etc.

There's a decent amount of powerful non ultimate CC abilities present. Looking at the entire kit is necessary as well as playstyle, not just how a single ability functions.

Otherwise we would be angry about some comparison like Thresh ultimate being a weaker Veigar cage and how his is an ultimate rather than basic.

Hayaishi26/29/2019, 5:31:41 PM6 votes

Give it a 20 second cooldown early game.

Zardo6/29/2019, 3:00:51 PM5 votes

Overall I don't think she's too strong, but that ability could 100% use a nerf back to what it originally was.

xDogMeatx6/29/2019, 5:23:24 PM5 votes

neekos E is pretty much a piercing morgana snare. now if we add in morgana its a AFK moment where you need to either make a sandwich or go to the bathroom if you get hit by both.

ModAcademy Kayn6/29/2019, 9:17:37 PM5 votes

It's Conditonally the best non-ulitmate CC ability in the game. Without hitting an extra minion, it then becomes an average, if not worse, CC ability than most other mages. Even then, it's really not the best, other CC's deserve that title more.

Tuition Fee6/30/2019, 2:05:36 AM2 votes

Man, this is not gonna get a lot of love, but I gotta say this; Neeko is fine. She's sitting at a healthy 50% winrate. Her E starts off slowly. They already nerfed her ult so it doesn't slow. Her late game isn't that great, on account of her range. She has to put herself on the line in teamfights to land the AOE ult, and if she uses Zhonya's, she can't move, meaning you can easily move out of range.

5050BS6/30/2019, 6:04:49 AM2 votes

Its Zyra 's E on crack.