Why Fizz takes skill to play

Arkyeus1·5/10/2016, 9:28:39 PM·29 votes·7,214 views

Yep. You read the title right. I'm going to argue that Fizz actually takes skill to play. I'm expecting a lot of hate comments though, so if I'd be surprised if i got more than 3 upvotes :/. Here's my argument:

1. Mechanics Fizz is up there mechanically with Yasuo and Zed. People say that "omg just mash the buttons and u get a free kill nub lol" but that's not true. Mana and cooldowns exist. You can't just mash the buttons on Fizz. Timing and positioning can play a big part in the outcome of your combo.

Q: Fizz runs his opponent through with his trident. The biggest part of this is that it puts Fizz the same distance from where he originally was despite location of his enemy. The positioning of this can highly impact whether you get a kill or not. Say you're chasing someone, and you're getting close to their turret. You Q while you're right next to them, sending you into the turret's range, killing you. However, using your Q while they're barely in range will put you right next to them, allowing you to not get into the turret's range and getting a kill. See? The timing of his Q can change a lot. This is also a lot like Yasuo's E. A good Fizz will be able to use it to dodge skill shots.

W: Missing health damage. Sounds like bs, right? How would you counter something like that(says the teemo main)? Well, you can. BUY HEALTH POTS. If that doesn't work or you're worried that you'll die anyways, play someone with high sustain! If you're too lazy, then DON'T ENGAGE when you don't have any of those things. Remember that it does bonus MAGIC damage. Rush an Abyssal Scepter if you're worried.

E: The most famous of Fizz's abilities. His stupid free Zhonya's. However, this also a disadvantage. This is Fizz's only source of wave clear, and some stupid Fizzes will use it to do so. He is at his weakest when his E is on cooldown. It has a high mana cost and a high cooldown. If you engage after he uses this, you will always win trades. Some people might say "well if fizz builds full cdr then he's oppppppp!!!111". CDR doesn't just magically appear. You have to buy it. Again, this takes skill. Farming is a big part of fizz's impact on mid and late game. How well he does early game impacts the rest of the game heavily, since Fizz is highly item dependent(lich bane). He's untargetable, but this also means he can't move, giving you and your team time to go in and engage or escape. This allows him to escape, but that can be countered easily with any form of CC. The timing and location of this skill can change a lot. If you activate it twice, for example, Fizz will jump again, doing damage, but in a smaller area and without a slow. Bad Fizzes will do this, resulting in a wider chance of the enemy escaping. This is also a lot like Yasuo's W, and is used to usually dodge skillshots or even ultimates.

R: The shark, named Chomper. This one's simple to explain. It's an extremely slow skillshot ult. It can be dodged pretty easily if Fizz is trying to assassinate you. The only part good in teamfights is the slow and the AOE knockup. It also goes a certain distance based on where you aim it, like a Zed W. The direction and distance you put it changes a lot.

2. Counters Fizz is a mobile AP assassin. He excels at picking of ADCs or other assassins. He has a lot of weaknesses, however.

  • Crowd control. Wow. Unbelievable. Some of Fizz's biggest counters have a lot of CC, like Annie. Stunning Fizz while his E is on cooldown will pretty much guarantee a kill or at least force him to recall, forcing him to lose farm and therefore get his items later. Like I said before, Fizz is extremely item dependent and relies heavily on early game farming.

  • Cooldowns. Yeah. His E has a high cooldown at early levels, when he's weakest. His E is the base of his kit. It allows him to reposition quickly without taking any damage. Without it, he is extremely vulnerable. Bad Fizzes will waste this, allowing enemies to quickly burst him down.

  • Mana costs. Fizz has mediocre mana sustain in lane. His E has a high mana cost, and using can have as big as an impact as using Blitzcrank's Q early game(well, that's a bit of an exaggeration).

WRAPPING UP Some people may say that Riven is a no skill champion, but compare a Bronze Riven to Box Box. Any noticiable difference? Yeah. A lot. Timing on skills, direction of ultimate, tower diving, etc. Every champion takes skill to play. Fizz isn't freelo. He has one of the lowest play rates. If he truly was freelo, then why isn't he an extremely popular choice? You might say "oh i dont play him coz i dont wanna be a jerk". Well, how about Lux? Yasuo? Zed? Vayne? Ekko? Ever heard of those champions? They're much more annoying than Fizz is.

tl;dr Fizz takes skill

EDIT: So apparently I'm getting a lot of hate about Fizz's mechanical level compared to that of Yasuo. IT WAS AN EXAGGGGERATION. Fizz isn't a no-skill champion. That's what I'm trying to say here.

50 Comments

OH MAN NOT GOOD5/10/2016, 9:53:35 PM8 votes

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Daxanater5/11/2016, 12:07:59 AM7 votes

You know what, fizz takes skill and all that shit but in the end

fuck fizz

DrDiaga5/10/2016, 10:18:03 PM7 votes

Fizz does take skill. I tried him a few times and he's not easy.

But he isn't hard either. Once you get comfortable with his kit, and know his combo's (and anyone can get to this point) he outputs very high damages and has silly amounts of mobility and arguably unfair defence with proper troll pole usage.

I don't hear people usually say he's easy. The complaints are always centered around that one be ability (and occasionally his ult).

JayHog19925/10/2016, 9:58:31 PM6 votes

Another weakness of Fizz is the laning phase. Twice I've beaten Fizz early game in the laning phase while playing Teemo. It's a matter of poking the enemy when you can and pray that he has to back before he hits level 3 and so on.

IcyPepper5/10/2016, 9:29:27 PM4 votes

As Sky Williams once said:

"E... and then Q?"

Illiad5/10/2016, 9:33:37 PM3 votes

you're right but you arent thinking big enough, everything a champion does is done by the player. every good Fizz player is a good player before Fizz comes into the equation, every bad Fizz player is a bad player before Fizz comes into the equation. Same with any champion

Awnold5/11/2016, 12:02:30 AM3 votes

here's the thing. fizz does take skill i guess. but he's a pain in the ass to deal with, and toxic as hell to play against.

IAMS4T4N5/11/2016, 12:41:57 AM3 votes

fizz is 10x easier to learn, play, and master than yasuo and zed lol

charcharmunro5/11/2016, 1:04:48 AM3 votes

Champions can take skill to use and still be annoying fucks. Why does everybody complain about him, Yasuo and Zed so much, despite them arguably having some decent skill requirements?

jodobo5/10/2016, 10:22:07 PM3 votes

Thank you for speaking truth about fizz for all the fizz mains in the world including me.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

BakedLotion5/11/2016, 12:06:15 AM2 votes

He has a low playrate because after every game he's played people have to sit there and contemplate life

Rozair5/11/2016, 12:08:28 AM2 votes

Fizz doesn't take skill at all. I've played him a bunch of times. If you w q and e to escape you can poke your enemies out of lane or kill them. Also you didn't say anything about his true resist passive. FIZZ IS BULLSHIT OP

l Helios l5/11/2016, 12:17:10 AM2 votes

Behold the voice of reason in league. No kappa btw.

Well explained imo

The Deckowner5/11/2016, 12:30:36 AM2 votes

strategical skill=/=mechanical skill

If u are talking about strategical skill, even Master Yi(aka rightclick4TW) takes more thinking than fizz.

If u are talking about mechanical skill, Katarina(aka pointandclick faceroll)takes more mechanical skill than fizz.

It only require skill to play as fizz when you are facing certain match ups, mahority of the time he takes no skill.

Solitair5/11/2016, 12:56:32 AM2 votes

He takes some skill, but he's definitely not mechanically up there with Zed and Yasuo. His pattern of a assassination is simply too repeatable(he has a constant, high access to it compared to other assassins) and obvious compared to the other 2, he has mobility and mistake erasure, and he can still murder carries when behind, not to mention he takes less experience than the two for his winrates to go up and generally maintains higher winrates when players get more experience on him--even while making less gold than other assassins. I started to see a marked increase in how I play him after a couple of games. The only real constraint he has is that he's squishy. I'd rank him as probably the least skill-requirement of all assassins. Try to play goddamn Shaco or Rengar. Fizz is nothing to those guys in terms of difficulty.

Lord Galvatron5/11/2016, 1:33:42 AM2 votes

*GASP!!! FIZZ TAKES……..SKILL?!

*Grabs pichfork

SexySoapTurtle5/11/2016, 2:15:09 AM1 votes

Dont care xD. Still banning fizz. Not dealing with someone who can avoid all forms of cc every 4 seconds.

YCitizenSnipsY5/11/2016, 2:22:53 AM1 votes

http://www.champion.gg/champion/Fizz

First time Fizz players win over 50% of the time. I guess he takes skill, any champion does. How much is a completely different story.

http://www.champion.gg/champion/Yasuo

Shouldn't even be compared to Yasuo in the slightest. His first time players have a 41% win rate.

Caítlyn5/11/2016, 2:27:21 AM1 votes

Downvoted without reading. I got Fizz in ARAM and without knowing what I was doing I got like 15 kills the highest in the game.

HongChongDong5/10/2016, 9:32:19 PM1 votes

As a fizz main that went from Silver to plat playing fizz, you've brought tears to my eyes.

xxxDogmanxxx5/11/2016, 2:35:00 AM1 votes

I don't care about Fizz. He can't kill me and dies like every other mage. Galio mains.

Live2LetDie5/10/2016, 9:32:15 PM1 votes

I mean you don't Q then E do you? Noob fiz players

Nyhver5/11/2016, 2:37:27 AM1 votes

{quoted}

Fizz is up there mechanically with Yasuo and Zed.

Not really

japan hate acc5/11/2016, 1:53:33 AM1 votes

That may be true, but he still could use some substantial nerfs.

MunchCrunchLunch5/10/2016, 10:08:31 PM1 votes

fizz is not mechanically with yasuo or zed thats pure bullshit to start. out of all assassins fizz has the least counters and not many hard counters

the Anarchit3cht5/10/2016, 10:22:10 PM1 votes

Fizz ult is not slow, but its not fast. That is remedied anyway by QR combo which essentially makes the ult a point blank shot.

Dario5/10/2016, 9:52:41 PM1 votes

Hard to CS with 1-6

theragingnerd5/10/2016, 9:48:57 PM1 votes

Fizz Finally i have been treated with the respect i deserve as a bronze 5 fizz main QQ

Fisherman Fízz5/10/2016, 9:39:28 PM1 votes

[zombie-brand-clap] Fizz Fizz Fizz Fizz