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wolfclaw3812·10/9/2019, 1:42:01 AM·1 votes·1,687 views

I'm a Bronze 2 player. I wasn't boosted, I didn't buy my account, I got to where I am now by playing a few games a week for a few months. My MMR is high enough so that I'm going up against silver players every match, Silver 1 if I won any SR game before a Ranked, Silvers 2 3 and 4 if I lost. Silver>Bronze. I have a 29% winrate in Ranked, and it's gone up: at the end of my placements, I believe I had... 15 or 20. Background has been filled in. Question time.

  1. Why is my MMR so damn high?
  2. Why won't my MMR drop since I'm obviously fighting people much better than I am?
  3. If I start intentionally throwing normal games, will my MMR start dropping more quickly? (I won't actually start throwing, but I'm getting desperate.)
  4. How is it possible that I've been going against Silvers from my first placement to now, with my shit winrate, and yet I'm still going up against them?
  5. Does a lower winrate reduce my MMR, or does Rito completely ignore the fact that I'm losing game after game and keep tossing me against the same people?

Rito, I've got a lot of questions, and you're not answering any of them.

3 Comments

Tr4shB4NSYST3M10/9/2019, 1:49:56 AM1 votes

No, losing normal games will not lower your ranked MMR. It is this way for ranked MMR because riot starts all players out at high silver low gold MMR as a new level 30 account. I agree its obnoxious for true new players, when i first started playing in season 6 i lost all 10 placements and ended up bronze 2 (this was before iron existed), but my mmr was still around silver 3 so i definitely ruined some other players games because my MMR was above my skill level.

Only advice i can really give is play a few more games this season, but possibly the soft MMR reset and placements next season will have your account more settled in its proper MMR.

Kai Guy10/9/2019, 7:16:00 AM1 votes
  1. Its not, you just have not escaped the Silver class interval yet. Keep playing.
  2. Because 16 games is nothing.
  3. No, ques are separately.
  4. Because 16 games is nothing, even with a high Uncertainty variable. The Starting MMR is silver. Your looking at -8 games right now when you balance your W to L. Seriously, there are players with 48% WR that have a bigger MMR debit then you do.
  5. MMR is a Balance. WR is not as relevant so much as the gap in the # of games.

If you don't fix WR and maintain 25%. My guess is that around 30 games you should only be seeing the occasional S4-S3 player. Last time Riot gave a value they listed it as 150-300 Games before their system hit low uncertainty, if my memory is correct.

Think of it as a balance, WR is not going to build great expectations. Starting value then subtract a bit for each loss over Win. Add a bit for each Win over loss. Its more complex then this but its a better way to view MMR then Flat WR.