Akali's Passive

ObscureClockwork·Sep 30, 2014·2 votes·798 views

Has anyone ever looked at the gold efficiency of the passive>

In case you guys don't know, here is the passive:

Discipline of Force: Akali's auto attacks deal 6% (+ 1% per 6 AP) of her attack damage as bonus magic damage.

Discipline of Might: Akali gains 6% (+ 1% per 6 bonus AD) spell vamp.

How efficient is it? Lets say akali is level 11 with gunblade and zhonyas. She has 143 AD (45 bonus AD) and 185 AP + 20% spellvamp. Her passive gives extra damage (albiet magic damage, but its arguably better) and extra spell vamp In this case, she gains 13.5% spellvamp and 38% extra magic damage of her AD. This extra damage = 54.34 damage

The gold cost of 1 attack damage (which i will substitute for the damage here) is 36 the gold cost of 1% of spellvamp is 27.5. Together, she gets 1956.96 + 371.25 (AD + spellvamp) worth of extra damage. In other words, she gets 2328.21 extra gold. From two items.

This means a level 11 akali that is even with you will have a gold advantage of 2328.

13 Comments

Lumus AvatarSep 30, 20142 votes

the cost of being a divey assassin? It's approximately equivalent to what she pays in medical insurance for her job.

ObscureClockworkSep 30, 20141 votes

She still sports 3 dashes, high sustain, high ratios, and stealth. Its not like she doesn't have tools to do her job as an assassin.

And she doesn't need medical insurance if shes scaling harder than everyone else and sustaining. Unless of course she needs it for obesity-related problems.

Lumus AvatarSep 30, 20141 votes

Oh no, you're right. She's OP as hell and I like playing as her. I was just making a joke.

ObscureClockworkSep 30, 20141 votes

Eh, not that OP. Just frustating

And akali mains don't seem to know what actually makes her strong.

Lumus AvatarSep 30, 20141 votes

I'd never quantified it, but I figured everyone was aware of the ridiculousness of her passive.

ObscureClockworkOct 2, 20141 votes

I'd expect more complaints about it if everyone was aware of how strong it was.

Lumus AvatarOct 2, 20141 votes

You have a point.

ObscureClockworkOct 3, 20141 votes

well, it seems no one seems to care much. I think that furthers the point.

Lumus AvatarOct 3, 20141 votes

Can't win em all.

Knight SoIaire Sep 30, 20142 votes

i wouldnt call her a divey assasin but a trap 90% of akali players out there are stupid, literaly with other champions they will play like normal ppl but with akali they will charge 1v5 and think that they are doing good job

akali is not any more divy that most of other assasins, but i see ppl play her like idiots

and i personaly think that akali needs a rework because her current kit is toxic (suck pre 6, eat everyone past 6, no cooldowns, no mana, just past 6 carnage, also sustained assasin is a bad thing, she usualy heals for more than ppl can hit her )

ObscureClockworkOct 3, 20141 votes

Idk about that. The akali players i've played with generally aren't that stupid.
And akali is pretty divy. Her sustain and high damage help her with that.

I'd like a rework on akali, or for riot to realize they need to really fix how she plays, but oh well. Its riot...

Knight SoIaire Oct 5, 20141 votes

i never saw akali players to actualy think before they charge and i usualy use that to wreck her you can carry pink ward in your inventory 24/7 and akali will still dive like an idiot cause she does not mind being gutted every time nor she will consider her safety when she goes ham with 100 hp

yeah and those are the plays i saw in plat, just a mindless charge because your dmg and sustain will fix your mistakes i thinkt htat its a bad playstyle

YGW CaspieOct 5, 20141 votes

This means a level 11 akali that is even with you will have a gold advantage of 2328.

Yes and no. Yes she gets 2328 worth of stats but you are also disregarding the value of the kit from other champions, and some are hard to calculate but here are a few a quick examples:

Vladimir with Rylais + Wota + Sorc Boots + Blasting Wand + Amplifying tome = 7795 gold Vladimir gets 1841 gold from 7795 gold worth of items.

Yasuo with Statikk Shiv + Infinity Edge + Berserker Greaves = 7300 gold Yasuo gets 2250 gold from 7300 gold worth of items.

Akali with Gunblade + Zhonyas + Sorc. Boots = 7760 gold Akali gets 2328 gold from 7760 gold worth of items

So Akali's gold advantage of 2328 isn't exactly fair in these terms is it? In these terms Yasuo has a 382 gold advantage ... he spends 460 gold less than Akali and there is only a 78 gold difference between their passives. She would however have a 522 gold advantage over Vladimir but that is still a substantial amount less than 2328 gold. Also I didn't calculate the fact that Yasuo loses 10% crit damage from his passive or the value of his shield and I also did not include runes or masteries at all and I just used your numbers for Akali so I have no idea if you calculated runes + masteries into that but it would change things if you did. I'm sleepy and it's late so I don't feel like doing a ton of math all to prove a point but the jest of it is that you can't just compare the value of someones passive to every other champion as if they had a passive worth 0 gold.

That being said I think Akali's passive could be reworked it's honestly boring getting free stats that offer no gameplay so here is an idea:

Twin Disciplines Disipline of Order: Akali deals X% more damage to targets below 50% hp. Disipline of Chaos: If Akali falls below 50% hp she gains X% spell vamp and X% lifesteal.

This promotes a little more gameplay instead of just giving raw stats it also makes it so that gunblade isn't mandatory because of the efficiency which gives Akali a bit more build flexibility. I didn't include hard values because it's hard to tell what would be balanced without some tests.