Leblanc is oppressive and unhealthy

Drunk Rummate·5/18/2015, 7:10:21 PM·85 votes·6,501 views

Pros to playing Leblanc: Leblanc has an oppressive lane phase. With a simple QW (not difficult to land) she outtrades every single midlaner in the game. She has the mobility to easily avoid skillshots and with 4 seconds on her distortion return she is impossible to gank.

You shut leblanc down by 'not giving her kills' but her level 6 all but guarantees that she kill you due to the absurd mobility and burst from base damage alone. Even safe picks mid such as Orianna who can shield her damage will get bullied out due to her low cooldowns, and that's not even including the zero mana cost on her ultimate.

Once bullied out, which is relatively easy, Leblanc is free to roam where she can easily pick up kills with relative safety due to her mobility. This is especially true in bottom lane where ADCs typically are underleveled and running minimal magic resist due to restricting item builds.

Note: Many argue that her waveclear is poor, but this is simply not true. Depending on the rank, her ultimate is on a 18-30 second cooldown after her first CDR item (Morellonomicon) and she can 1 shot entire minion waves instantly for minimal cost in mana or cooldowns.

"Cons" to playing Leblanc She is supposedly "balanced" via a poor teamfight and a lack of split pushing strength. Personally I don't see how these cons are powerful enough to outweigh the pros listed above, and I will explain why.

"Poor Teamfight" - Leblanc has high damage in an AOE on her distortion, which is generally the first skill she maxes. With morellonomicon at level 9 she can use distortion once every 7.5 seconds and she can mimic that with her R once every 30 seconds for tons of AOE damage. This damage is very reliable due to her mobility and safety and it still leaves her with Q and E for single target damage to assassinate, Q being on an extremely low cooldown with a very high potential for damage.

"Bad Splitpush" - Due to her excellent mobility and waveclear I think it's far from true to say that Leblanc has a bad split push. The only downside to her splitting is lack of tower damage, but with an elixer of sorcery even this is negated due to the passive true damage on auto. Due to her potential to assassinate and her ability to escape threats (generally tanks, which are low damage and non threatening to begin with) Leblanc actually makes for an excellent split pusher with a simple 400 gold purchase.

So that leaves us with one final "con" for Leblanc - her assassination potential falls off heavily in the latest stages of the game. A banshees veil on an ADC/APC renders them far more difficult to kill. This does not, however, detract from her teamfighting or excellent 1v1 capabilities by too large of an extent. In the late game if properly played she isn't much worse for teamfights than a full build Ahri, and she can still easily chunk ADCs/APCs out of a teamfight even if they have the appropriate MR items.

So that's my attempt at calmly calling Leblanc overpowered. I think the small tap to her ult ratios a couple patches back does not even begin to address the problems with this champion. Her low winrate is not indicative of her strength in my opinion and she needs to be addressed.

EDIT: Decided I would add my suggestion to change Leblanc since this thread is getting enough attention. In the past her ult damage scaled off of the number of points she had in a particular skill. This meant that in order for Leblanc to assassinate a target, she had to max her Q first so that the mimic Q would do enough burst damage. Reverting this change would reduce her waveclear or it would force Leblanc players to make a decision for the early-mid game on which style of play to focus. I think it would be a healthy change because it would emphasize a weakness in Leblanc's kit without directly removing her ability to assassinate or the smooth feeling of her kit.

97 Comments

somexotherxguy5/18/2015, 7:17:32 PM14 votes

Her team fighting is way more weak than you seem to imply. Yes she has the ability to output a lot of damage with a double distortion, but that can only be done if she is positioning right. It is easier than you think to predict where the distortion will go and cc her as soon as she arrives and then she dies extremely fast. She is only good at cleaning up a fight or picking off stragglers.

Shield Villain5/19/2015, 1:26:52 AM11 votes

Maybe Riot should nerf her attack speed, it worked with Zed right?

Snowfox5/18/2015, 7:13:18 PM9 votes

1 more - She can easily be pushed under tower where she cannot farm

StealthWarden5/18/2015, 7:24:09 PM6 votes

Many argue that her waveclear is poor, but this is simply not true. Depending on the rank, her ultimate is on a 18-30 second cooldown after her first CDR item (Morellonomicon) and she can 1 shot entire minion waves instantly for minimal cost in mana or cooldowns.

ludens echo....no ult required

Trumpet5/18/2015, 7:43:46 PM6 votes

My thing with people talking about assassins is that they are generally really biased to either side (Riot all assassins op please nerf, or Assassins meta best meta) which is why any thread about them tends to be a "nerf this champion".

I understand what you are trying to imply, but leblance is not the goddess that people make her out to be because she does suck in teamfights (worse than any other assassin). (Even if you don't think so) Because she drops her Q-R-W combo and then the target is either dead or not and she cannot burst some one for the rest of the duration.

With LB all you really need to do to beat her is out farm her and don't die (make sure to yell at your friends when she roams). It really is that simple.

I think assassins add an interesting flavor into the game, but I understand why people can dislike them (them playing well means they exposed all of you mis-steps and telegraphed them to everyone in game).

Shifune5/18/2015, 8:07:11 PM6 votes

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Even safe picks mid such as Orianna who can shield her damage will get bullied out due to her low cooldowns, and that's not even including the zero mana cost on her ultimate.

Orianna is one of my favorite picks INTO Leblanc. This is purely a skill match so stop pretending that Leblanc beats everyone. Other champions I pick into Leblanc are Karma and Lulu, both of which can easily beat Leblanc in lane and protect your teammates from Leblanc's burst later. These aren't "meta" champions; so sadly, you don't see them very often.

NeoScout5/19/2015, 5:18:09 AM4 votes

riot underestimates the amount of "power budget" her w is worth, mobility is crazy good in this game.

Gavran5/19/2015, 2:45:27 AM4 votes

Sigh

This is the third thread I've posted about this in, within like two days

Leblanc does not have a blink she has a dash

That means that the entire time she is moving she is targetable and can be CC'd

if you CC a LB mid-distortion you win she's useless and paper

JayenKei5/18/2015, 10:25:06 PM3 votes

Play Galio gg

ur fired5/18/2015, 8:29:08 PM2 votes

Leblanc is so much more difficult than any other champion in the game. She deserves to be OP.