First of all, this post is not about blaming support for doing such, so no toxicity.
I just wanna ask about this, because sometimes if I don't do well, my support gives up and goes top. What should I do to maximize survivability while getting fed enough then? Should I just roam with my sup?
As support I do exactly as you say. With bad ADC i have 2 options: a) flame profoundly b) support better players. Obviously option b keeps my acc safe.
Swap roles with your top laner, or just do your best to farm under tower and stay safe. Give up CS if it means not dying, never walk near an unwarded bush, keep your jungler close by or rather, keep close by your jungle.
As a support player though, youre not supposed to go topside when you roam, you go mid. Supports dont carry TP and assisting toplane does absolutely nothing unless your top laner is Kayle and just wants to permapush and draw 2v2s
When the support roams, they should roam to get your team ahead in vision, map pressure, objective control, gold lead, and exp lead. ALL of that can be negated if the ADC dies while they are roaming. So, whatever you do, don't die. That could mean giving up 10 cs but if they support did their job they got mid a kill boosting everything previously listed and potentially getting a turret, dragon, or herald. Now if your support is roaming when the lane is even and the enemy has either equal or high lane priority, then that's on them. They are not doing a good job and leaving you to suffer the consequences of that. Farm under turret, don't go near places that the enemy could potentially be (so good map awareness and tracking enemy players) and not greeding for anything. If you are getting camped by the jungler making it a 3v1, then that means the support should pressure mid and shove that turret or pressure an objective with your ally jungler. If you are getting turret dived relentlessly then it's best to just drop the lane and shove mid until they take bot turret and then go bot and farm safely at tier two turret. It's a terrible spot to be in as an ADC, but most, if not all ADC's, scale with cs very well, so play the long game and hope your support is not a nincupoop.
Get dove over and over because now the enemy jungler is going to sit bot.
This is an interesting topic, because I was told that support is supposed to roam. As it was put "You're not just some ADC's support, you're the whole team's support". So, I guess, if things start going poorly, support is supposed to roam to a stronger character in attempt to swing the game back into your team's favor. ***Credit to CurS1VE for the reply
"I would say if your ADC is behind and lost turret and is constantly pushing up past river or even to river without that Turret (tier 1) then they don't know what they are doing, they should have already rotated to somewhere else and if they haven't (unless ppl are dead on enemy team) then they are just clueless and you are better off leaving them cause I guarantee ppl will come for them, there are things in this game that are just easy kills, nothing is easier than a ADC who is way behind without a Turret. Even if you are a superb Support it's just one of those things that it's almost impossible to consistently outplay.
Also you support the team not just some ADC; your goal is to support the person who gives you the best chance to win while also setting your team up to make plays through objectives that give you the best chance to win."
All I'm getting out of this game is that it's pretty freakin' complicated in some areas (or at least gives the impression of being complicated), and communication is key.
I'm not trying to rag on anybody, because, again...complicated game, and "what you're supposed to be doing" isn't exactly crystal clear at every single moment of the game, but I think a lot of the issue is people play Team Deathmatch instead of "Take The Objective". They don't play around item power (even I'm guilty of sitting in lane WAY longer than I should...which allows the enemy to base, get stronger items, and come back to kick ass). If you have an enemy down, it's probably better to base and get items so you can at least try to match whatever item power spike they'll come back with.
I could be dead wrong, and I'd love the correction should I be wrong, but I'm fairly certain the importance flow chart looks like this...
CS > Objectives > Items > Not Dying > Kills
Not feeding is the best thing you can do. Because if your support roams and fucks up their mid laner or their jungler or god willing, he makes some godly play and your team gets a tripple kill, you not dying has secured that lead. I mean think about it, if you support roams and gets their mid to give up the booty but you also give up your booty then nothing was actually gained.
I play support these days and when your adc is behind purely just in cs or deaths, it is smart for the support to roam instead of wasting resources on a player that is behind. It is like when the jg says Im not ganking you you're behind. It is not personal and had to tell an adc the other day that its more worth for me to sit mid with the midlaner and keep him alive while you play safe and cs for solo exp in bot lane to hopefully come back into the game.
Roam with the idiot support who thinks it was an auto win for leaving bot lane
you get what farm you can without getting yourself killed and backing away (even if it means recalling) so you dont die and make the situation worse
simple. if they won't help you don't help them. they aren't being a good teammate by leaving you to die.
If all else fails, farm under turret. If they're diving you under turret successfully no matter what you do, start roaming. I'd suggest going where your support doesn't, both to maximize map pressure and to minimize exp reductions for allies.
win the lane alone because most people in gold aren't very good
if the support leaves because you're not doing well let them create pressure to draw attention away from you so you can farm safely and hopefully make a comeback into the game
