Current state of Lee Sin in Patch 8.23

Here To Gank You·11/20/2018, 3:06:29 PM·2 votes·978 views

What about champs like lee sin? with this nerf to wards. Also having Trackers knife, sightstone removed and having to buy control wards to facilitate any plays, how are you expected to have a legitimate non rng/luck way to take control of the game? lets say you gank a lane and use a control ward to make a play, an enemy comes by after the play to kill your ward effectively costing you 75g and giving the enemy 30 gold for the ward kill. Lee Sin already scales terribly into the late game, so you are forced to put yourself further behind and funnel the enemy team gold in order to make a play? (not every gank will be successful but not having a ward ready for the gank also dramatically reduces chances of success.) Not only that, you are forced to hoard your trinkets for escapes, effectively giving you no way to actually ward up for your team. On top of that, what about vision denial? well cant do that either, you need those control wards if you want to make a play, alternatively you can just sit back and have no early game pressure, as an early game pressure jungler and then let everyone farm up so you can be oustcaled late game?

Now the Turrets also having more health which means laning phases will last longer, which means that they will have time to outscale you, with all this combined its essentially a complete nullification of any early game pressure you can add to the game. This cripples the champion quite hard.

Hear me out, i am a lee sin main yes. I'm not asking for some insane buff or anything like that. All im asking is for some consideration here with this situation. I'd like to see a "Fair for all" way of making him more viable. This isnt a cry out to ask for an unfair advantage i DO NOT want to see that, let me be clear on that. Suggestions: (disclaimer; these are just suggesstions below, not meant to be the end all solution, merely just to spark some kind of constructive conversation to lead to a legitimate, non biased solution.)

Give lee sin lower cooldown on trinkets?

A passive item like Rengar had, where maybe getting more kills or assists will lead to cooldown on trinkets or reward some trinkets along the way?

Maybe an addition to his passive that rewards trinkets in some form or fashion like above suggestions. For every epic monster kill lower cd on trinkets etc.

Thanks for your time and potential consideration. Regards.

3 Comments

Mordepool11/20/2018, 3:10:08 PM2 votes

Lee sins blind why would he care about vision?

Draconian56511/20/2018, 3:44:01 PM1 votes

Gripex mentioned how he'd want shit like "sticks" that u could temporarily spawn and dash to, which would be nice since it doesn't add additional vision and allows for plays.

I assume this would work by having a Lee-Sin only item or a further enchantment on Jungle item when lee-sin in game.