The Switch of Meditation to Expanded Mind

Strident·6/5/2015, 4:08:01 PM·33 votes·2,411 views

I don't understand why this was necessary. The 75 mana is worse for anybody who stays in lane for more than 2 min 5 sec, and makes laning against manaless champions even more frustrating (Vlad and Kat). The missing mana is also not very effective early on because you need to be missing 200 mana before it is superior to the old meditation.

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NorthernDruid6/5/2015, 5:33:21 PM8 votes

The change also added 3 required points to the mastery tree for mana hugry supports who didn't get the old +2/3.5/5% of max mana masteries.

Which is really kinda annoying, since there's now even fewer decent masteries low in the utility tree. IMO that's the real weakness of the tree, there's so few really decent masteries to take on your way up to the good ones (gold generation ones, mana regen, CDR and +out-of-combat movespeed) (like the +hp regen/+health/+%health in defence, and the wealth of options in the offense tree).

If you're getting tear->AA's/SE you want the mana+health regen per 300 max mana masteries for sure. But otherwise, max mana isn't all that useful. There's a reason it was basically only Ryze who took the old mastery.

But since you still have to spend 3 points to get a decent boost to mana regen, and you still have to spend the three points you used to spend in mana regen to get up to the useful stuff..

That's 3 more points you need on the same budget.

So which top tier mastery am I supposed to sacrifice for mana regen which is slightly better come the late game than the old mastery (well, maybe like 3-5 times as good but still)? Am I supposed to give up on extra gold from ally CS, extra gold for autoattacking the lane opposition, extra exp come the midgame or sorely needed mana regen?

Currently I decided that dropping the exp and putting only 2 points in mana regen was the best option.

But since the options low in the tree are worse now.

Can we shift some of the almost useful masteries in utility down a bit? (like the exp gain and the lifesteal/spellvamp)

Slamurai Jack6/5/2015, 8:12:31 PM3 votes

I honestly haven't really felt much of a difference. If anything, it's a buff to any mid laner that goes chalice first item, as well as any champion that tends to conserve spells, since while their regen is lower, theres a larger pool to regen. Basically, if you started with 250 mana before, you now start with 325 mana. However, if you're now ever above 250 mana, you're basically regenning extra mana for free where you wouldn't have gotten any before. Overall, I feel the change from 3 per 5 mana regen to 75 flat only really hurts champions that both spend lots of mana very quickly and have lower base regen, and that doesn't apply to alot of champions.

Mandang06/5/2015, 5:08:54 PM1 votes

To be fair, the extra mana makes blue buff stronger by an amount almost equal to old meditation. Also, it helps champs who build mana items more than champs who build mana regen, which I think is a step in the right direction.

Syndrarella6/5/2015, 5:21:16 PM1 votes

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Kurama76/6/2015, 6:31:33 AM1 votes

I haven't seen to many problems with the switch, i almost always go 21/9 so i guess i'm used to playing without the regen, but i do use 21/0/9 rarely and it doesn't feel different to me.

LoL Ergo Urgot6/6/2015, 10:40:08 PM1 votes

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