Zed ult should not reset CD if he doesn't finish animation b4 they die.

I Chode I·8/28/2015, 10:22:50 AM·6 votes·2,603 views

In my last game i was having a discussion with an enemy zed after he ulted three straight times before it went on CD, reason being the first two died while he was untargetable. So basically he became immune three times in one fight, and being a Zed hes an obvious focus target, which made it basically impossible.

His argument was, "i didnt finish the animation before they died so it should reset"

My argument, "part of the spells effects (immunity) did go off so that should automatically put it on CD it doesn't matter if the whole spells effect went off, why is my team getting the bad end of the stick when he is wasting his ult on low hp targets."

I'm just curious what others opinions are about this. The way it is now he could possibly ult 5 times in one fight, thus becoming untargetable 5 times, and not even put his ult on CD.

28 Comments

Desiderium8/28/2015, 11:41:10 AM3 votes

Honestly just sounds like pure bad luck on Zed's part. The reason why it even has a cooldown reset to begin with is because it feels really bad to ult someone only for them to end up dying to your team before you can reach them. Then you become completely useless. Zed's ult already has plenty of counterplay, and there's plenty of times where you can use it by mistake and get punished for it by the ENEMY team; you shouldn't have to be punished for using it by your OWN team.

LankPants8/28/2015, 12:27:00 PM2 votes

You can potentially use just the invincibility to dodge even other ults. Of course it should go on CD.

Francisco Pires8/28/2015, 10:33:05 AM1 votes

But sometimes your jungler comes to gank or something, you ult, but your target dies even before you place the mark. If the ult went on cd it would be annoying. But i agree they can abuse the cd reset

D2T Undeeds8/28/2015, 12:38:40 PM1 votes

While you do have a point concerning Zed possibly becoming untargetable multiple times, it's still very unlikely to happen since each target would have to die in a 0.75sec window. Also, having your ult reset can be detrimental since Zed will reappear at the original location. Putting the full CD after this happen seems too harsh, however it could be put on a longer reduced cooldown (like 10 seconds instead of 5).

Also, for the sake of comparison, the only similar ults I can think of (targeted with some kind of channel before) are Caitlyn (5secs CD + mana not refunded) and Darius (does not go on CD + no mana consumed).

Rabid Husky8/28/2015, 2:03:06 PM1 votes

in all honesty all ults that can be ksed should get resets like zeds ult caits ult syndras ult nocturn and vis ults i think they redid brands ult to change directions nautilus ult and veigars ults should atleast get cd reduction if stolen cuz lets be real your not gettin assists for these ults unless the part you need is done.it wouldnt punish people who play these champs if they get stupid teammates who take these kills before they are useful meaning more power for team fights instead of saying oh your this character? to bad shoulda gotten more attentive team mates sucks for you

Akali is SO HOT11/6/2015, 3:05:59 AM1 votes

Well if you get rid of it for Zed you're gonna have to get rid of it for every other ability that does it too which consists of like half of the champion roster at least.