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Should I Keep Playing Him...?

Hasagi133··2 votes·877 views

In advance, sorry if I posted to the wrong Board; I am sorta new here.

After my placements I fell from Silver 2-4 to Bronze 3. I went on a win streak and came to Bronze 2, and have slowed down ranked. I often have a team that feeds one lane (last game, quinn mid fed Diana 9/1), and I sometimes have trouble carrying. At this point, I am scared to play ranked because I may go on a losing steak and fall into the depths of Elo hell (if it even exists, idk)

My question is on what champion to play. I have about 300 games on Yasuo according to a program I have, and he is definitely my most played and best champion. My winrate with him in ranked, this season alone, is 65% with 26 games played. This is just on my level 30 account.

However, I've been second guessing my ability with him. Unless I get fed in lane (sometimes I don't, with all the Zeds, Leblancs, and tanks/bruisers). I can't really push down towers and win teamfights with ease. It practically becomes a coin toss. He is somewhat dependent on good knockups/peel/initiation, with oftentimes lacks in Bronze. If I try to splitpush, my team will get destroyed because they go in 4v5 or their entire team comes for me (because Bronzies hate Yasuo) and my team does nothing with the open lane(s).

Should I stick to easier champs, like Annie? I feel like spending the time to get comfortable with a (few) new champ(s) would take forever. Should I play a role other tahn mid/top, like jungle, to gank all lanes and counter jungle? What do you recommend for me to get back to where I was, if not improve in rank?

I don't have any problems with raging/flaming at all (often mute everyone at start of match). I understand when to push what lanes, when to take dragon/ Baron, etc. I ward well and buy at least 3 pink wards in laning phase alone. My macro game is rather decent, or at least low Gold level I think. I understand how to punish people when they go in for CS.

All advice is appreciated.

11 Comments

Drunk Rummate2 votes

took my buddy about 2k games of playing only yasuo or dodging to get where he is today, in diamond 5

about 1400 of those were in bronze, iirc. once he moved up he started moving quickly.

up to you honestly, he has a really high skill cap but he has a fair amount of super hard counters that can make your skill just stop mattering (ex: irelia, riven)

Hasagi1331 votes

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took my buddy about 2k games of playing only yasuo or dodging to get where he is today, in diamond 5

about 1400 of those were in bronze, iirc. once he moved up he started moving quickly.

up to you honestly, he has a really high skill cap but he has a fair amount of super hard counters that can make your skill just stop mattering (ex: irelia, riven)

Thanks. I mean, I just started played about 13 months ago so I'm relatively new. About half of my victories in normals are on Yasuo, and i think i got him when i was still level 17. Have been maining him for one month, and avoiding him the other. I have a very in depth knowledge base on him though, since most of my LoL experience is on him.

Skill/hard matchups like the ones you mentioned don't really bother me (once first blooded and won lane against a diamond Riven, should've seen the chat XD), but some champions get tricky like Zed, Jax, Udyr, Shyvana, etc. Since he isn't in meta I sometimes struggle with him.

Thanks for the inspirational story about your friend tho, I guess i can push myself to grind some ranked now!

pikkkkolo1 votes

yolo

Papa Slothy1 votes

I would stick with Yas, he can hard carry and win teamfights (but you already know :p)

I had that problem with Zed (kept second guessing) and all it took to fix was playing a few normals and trying to play off impulse

Hasagi1331 votes

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I would stick with Yas, he can hard carry and win teamfights (but you already know :p)

I had that problem with Zed (kept second guessing) and all it took to fix was playing a few normals and trying to play off impulse

Just saw this, thanks for the tip. I just have a few problems with being focused no matter when iI go in (bronze people hate Yasuo)... I guess I'll figure something out.

Papa Slothy1 votes

I would suggest getting a titanic hydra as yas can proc it 2 times a second with his q and auto, sunfire is also a pretty good pick considering how close he needs to be to attack

Hasagi1331 votes

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I would suggest getting a titanic hydra as yas can proc it 2 times a second with his q and auto, sunfire is also a pretty good pick considering how close he needs to be to attack

I've heard of builds like this (Tanksuo) but I never tried it (I figured if I wanted to go that path, it would be better on other champs). I'll try it next time i go top.

Papa Slothy1 votes

not even tanksuo, you can build offtank and still deal pretty similar damage

Hasagi1331 votes

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not even tanksuo, you can build offtank and still deal pretty similar damage

Will try. Usually when i go offtank, I get PD>TF>Boots>Deadman's>Zz'rot>BoRK/BT

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

If you feel you are good enough to play yasuo in ranks, then do. Play what you are comfortable with. 65% winrate is excellent.

Usually, the big problem with people in gold and below, is that that we don't know how to play from behind. You said ''Unless I get fed in lane (sometimes I don't, with all the Zeds, Leblancs, and tanks/bruisers). I can't really push down towers and win teamfights with ease. ''

That right there tells me that you don't know how to play from behind.

If the enemy is weaker than you, you should abuse that, and get even stronger. That is snowballing.

If your enemy is on fair grounds with you. You should NOT try dueling him, but rather wait for him to screw up in positioning, or just out-farm him. If you try dueling him, you might lose, and if you lose, he becomes stronger than you. Mind that.

And if you are weaker than your enemy, the solution is to wait for a mistake on his part, or hope a teammate helps you, but you should never try to duel an enemy if you are let's say 0/3/0 vs him at 2/0/1. Unless you have a 45 Cs lead on him or something.

Hasagi1331 votes

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If you feel you are good enough to play yasuo in ranks, then do. Play what you are comfortable with. 65% winrate is excellent.

Usually, the big problem with people in gold and below, is that that we don't know how to play from behind. You said ''Unless I get fed in lane (sometimes I don't, with all the Zeds, Leblancs, and tanks/bruisers). I can't really push down towers and win teamfights with ease. ''

That right there tells me that you don't know how to play from behind.

If the enemy is weaker than you, you should abuse that, and get even stronger. That is snowballing.

If your enemy is on fair grounds with you. You should NOT try dueling him, but rather wait for him to screw up in positioning, or just out-farm him. If you try dueling him, you might lose, and if you lose, he becomes stronger than you. Mind that.

And if you are weaker than your enemy, the solution is to wait for a mistake on his part, or hope a teammate helps you, but you should never try to duel an enemy if you are let's say 0/3/0 vs him at 2/0/1. Unless you have a 45 Cs lead on him or something.

I started doing stuff like this last week, and within 2 days (about 6-8 games) I climbed to Bronze 2. Mostly playing top at this point I'm just winning lane (getting fed, as well as CS leads), roaming Mid (getting a kill and taking tower), taking Herald and then top tower, then teleporting bot.

It's this simple formula that gets me 7/1 at 20 minutes when they FF. I just split push till then.

That's great advice though, will offer it to others as well.

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