champion diversity

Toastey·10/30/2016, 10:11:20 PM·4 votes·2,125 views

LoL champ diversity is a joke. 2016 WCS had only 57 champs pick/ban in 77 games, with only 45 picked more than once. That's like ~34% of the pool picked more than once, and only ~44% of the pool picked/banned at all.

2015 WCS was 74 pick/ban, 59 with 1+ picks in 73 games. Don't forget GP/Morde both ~70 bans; GP 100% pick/ban/win rate.

Let that sink in. This year, there were fewer champions picked overall than there were champions picked MORE THAN ONCE last year. And last year was the Juggernauts disaster to boot. The pool is getting bigger but diversity is shrinking.

Compare this to DotA 2--I forget if 2014 or 2015 TI (equivalent of WCS in LoL), but literally every hero was used except 1.

Too many champions occupy similar niches to each other within their classes, so at any given time only like 1/3rd of the pool is at nominal effectiveness and there's no reason to pick anything else (unless you want to have fun or are a one-trick). For every meta champ, there are roughly 2 other champs that fill pretty much the same role, but worse. This is what happens when you try to balance for a centre-clustered system instead of making champions counter each other.

Then again, with items just being stat sticks with mathematically correct/incorrect combinations and zero skill involved in item usage (RIP QSS and Muramana), there's always going to be an elite core of "meta champions" that work best with the current items. To quote an old boards post, "Fire your fucking kiddy balance team."

The balancing has gotten so bad that even pros have become self-aware. Bjerg literally saying on stream, "Guys idk what it would take for X Champion to be viable again, but no matter how bad a champ's kit is, Riot can make them viable by breaking their numbers. That's just the sad truth."

also the 2016 wcs final/ro8 bracket draw was also a joke. rox/skt was an infinitely better series than ssg/skt and shouldve been the final.

bye

25 Comments

Skia Asteri10/30/2016, 10:38:43 PM3 votes

For those wondering how it compares:

Season 6 Season 5 Season 4 Season 3 Season 2 Season 1

oSEXYPLATYPUSo10/30/2016, 10:17:13 PM3 votes

but when it goes to 10 bans (5 for each team) then more diversity would be the result

CerealBoxOfDoom10/30/2016, 10:25:50 PM1 votes

How many players was it though, or how many teams.

from what I'm seeing its 16 teams so 16 * 5 is 80 players

Now lets suppose half get eliminated after just picking popular picks as less awesome teams often do and then there's the meta picks. 50 in 77 games isn't all that bad for a game that isn't balanced around pro-play actually

AcidTheWarlock10/30/2016, 10:35:59 PM1 votes

Riot balances mostly for pubs.

If they would balance for pros they'd get yelled at.

In the meantime, DotA is a mess for the scrub but heaven for the high elo.

Pick one rito. No esports or no soloqueue.

Talisid10/31/2016, 12:21:53 AM1 votes

Its something to consider, and it definitely was a pretty stale worlds this year because of it.

HOWEVER! I think that the champion diversity in ranked queue is just fine and this is what is actually the most important.

hsumis1ove10/31/2016, 1:22:35 AM1 votes

I wanna see vayne or twitch in the LCS.

Flaherty10/30/2016, 10:13:51 PM1 votes

People keep comparing the champion diversity to dota, but dota's champions are all balanced for competitive play which means that a lot of them are stupidly broken for most players who are not pros or in the top of the ranking system.

Jinzo Torrance10/31/2016, 2:05:39 PM1 votes

Bang your head on a wall, nobody cares about it.

At World you play to win real money, you play meta champs in good and cohesive comps to have the least flaw, you don't play your favorite champion or a underplayed champion in a team of 5 random to get your pretty challenger icon.

Cat cafe10/30/2016, 10:19:55 PM1 votes

There was a Fat Patch released before worlds so a lot of the teams didn't have enough time to experiment with what works and stuck to what they know

  • But over all, league has small champion diversity in competitive play