"CinderHulk"

Crushed lil kid·2/28/2015, 10:18:33 PM·1 votes·2,255 views

Cinderhulk is a good idea in that it allows junglers to have a double sunfire therefore it really boosts the speed at which tank junglers can clear, however, the lack of tenacity on the jungle item really hurts many of the same tank junglers who now again need to purchase merc treads where moblity boots and ninja tabi or even lucidity boots were becoming much more viable for junglers because they could get their tenacity from their jungle item i feel the new change is really going to hurt jungers more than help them due to the fact that they are now forced into purchasing merc treads once again.

30 Comments

B3ER2/28/2015, 10:23:46 PM4 votes

Unique passives with the same name don't stack. Sunfire and Cinderhulk both have the "Immolate" unique passive. Sorry brah.

Sirsir2/28/2015, 10:48:52 PM3 votes

Not really... as a tank you don't care nearly as much as most about getting CC'd.

The real issue is the lack of CDR, which tanks get a LOT of value out of! Its also going to be a bit weaker stat wise than the current version when you first pick it up (by about 50)

But its certainly not going to be detrimental

TehNACHO2/28/2015, 10:22:26 PM1 votes

It really only hurts the Fighter Junglers who wanted Juggs, not true Tanks.

One Jungle tank that immediately comes to mind, for example, is Nautilus. All of his abilities are instant activation, have long cool downs, and are initiation based, so they get front loaded immediately and aren't going to be used in the middle of a fight. These are all traits that don't really in any way require or want Tenacity. Frontloaded initiation abilities are literally independent of Tenacity, 9 times out of 10, and the long cool downs means that you don't have to optimize for every individual second during a fight like Mundo or Shyvana require.

That said though, yeah, I'm going to miss my Tenacity on my Raid Boss champions. I liked having 10% CDR AND Tenacity in a defensive item; really helps round off a Raid Boss so well.

KidSpectre2/28/2015, 11:41:05 PM1 votes

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Cinderhulk is a good idea in that it** allows junglers to have a double sunfire** therefore it really boosts the speed at which tank junglers can clear,

False, Sunfire is gaining the same unique passive name (while retaining its current functionality).

MrSlowDie3/1/2015, 1:28:44 AM1 votes

I rarely buy tenacity on tanks usually I buy tenacity for bruiser/fighter.

I am not the highest priority to be CC'ed, so I don't care that much about tenacity