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A small Change to Zed's Passive.

Klubhouse·3/8/2015, 11:14:59 PM·12 votes·2,039 views

Hey folks.

Just a suggested small change to Zed's passive. Seeing as to how he's so prevalent in the board's discussions, heres a small something for you to munch on. I don't personally think he's that bad balance-wise by himself. It's more like the removal of DFG (and nerds to DFG champs) coupled with the phasing out point and click stuns is making Zed (and assassins in general) more and more prominent... because, well, DFG and point+click cc are good answers to mobile assassins.

That, and I think Zed being high skill cap takes time and effort to master. As the game is out for longer and longer, more and more players will pick up and grow comfortable with this champion... making him more prevalent and causing the meta to sort of "swirl" around him/her if you will because we seem to have the notion of "Difficult to play -> More power to the table" (Not malicious, just an ever-evolving challenge the community and Riot must work together to maintain good communication).

But anyway... the small change:

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CONTEMPT FOR THE WEAK: Now does not proc on Minions until level six

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I would like to suggest this change because even to a nooby player like me, farming with Zed is perhaps one of the easiest champs to last hit on due to his passive giving him a sizable chunk of magic damage. Assassin's design-wise are supposed to bring a "Feast or Famine" idea to the table and the creep wave brings guaranteed income. Which assassin's could use to sort of insulate themselves from that feast or famine idea. I feel that Zed's passive gives him a little too easy of a time farming right from level one, so I suggest we move this part of his passive to level six. removing some of the "Guaranteed income" that Zed could so easily get to catch up from a deficit in the early game, but if he plays well in the early game and hits lvl six? then that snowball can keep on going and Zed can essentially have his "Feast".

Thanks, and have fun, I have respect for Zed as a champion and have tried, and failed, with him enough to realize that he does need a bit of time and effort to play "Skillfully."

23 Comments

Jefftiffy3/9/2015, 12:04:17 AM9 votes

Hrm or you know we could fix the armor system so that building 2 armor pen items doesn't spike damage so hard.

Kitten of Evil3/8/2015, 11:53:37 PM4 votes

Or increase his energy costs to bring him in line with other ninjas. His QWE costs 40 energy less than Kennen's at all levels, 35 less than Akali's at all levels, and way less than Shen's full combo. I've never understood why Zed gets away with having such excessively cheap costs on his moves, most of which are already great for wave-clear.

ccseancc1433/8/2015, 11:59:28 PM4 votes

Zed is perfectly fine where he is imo and I main Talon and Zed is basically a better version of Talon in lane.

BetaDude403/9/2015, 1:02:39 AM3 votes

I've played around with Zed before, and I can see that there is a level of skill needed to understand and play him. The issue people have with Zed is that once he effectively learns the champ, he can do so much. Zed has decent poke (albeit at a rather hefty energy cost, but his regen should fix that extremely quickly), he has insane waveclear, and he is one of the safest assassins in the game. Yeah, he's got a lot in his kit that requires some adapting to, but once you do, you have such a high potential to be absolutely unstoppable.

I am perfectly okay with Zed being capable to assassinate. What I don't want is his near-infinite poke, extreme waveclear, and a get-out-of-jail-free card for an ult. The passive change is a step in the right direction (certainly better than his most recent "nerf"), but I feel there needs to be more penalties for screwing up.

I think maybe increasing energy costs on all abilities and removing the passive on his W might really help.

Robsution3/8/2015, 11:21:50 PM2 votes

NO

Buttigieg 20203/9/2015, 12:59:52 AM2 votes

I think u made a typo. It should be zed passive: now 1 shots anything weaker than zed. After all it is called contempt for the weak.

Juggernaut Jesus3/9/2015, 4:07:23 AM1 votes

Add a range limit at which he can teleport back to his shadow, no champion should be able to chase across a fourth of the map and still return to safety that easily.