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ELO Hell and the the reason why the LoL community is quite literally horrid

13Kingslayer13·1/3/2015, 8:23:03 AM·2 votes·1,208 views

So I play fairly good, I'm not going to toot my horn, I used to have a level 30 account but every time I get a series placement match they all get trolled. Okay the theory about 56% of games will be wins is entirely false. I can go back to back wins and win all the way up to my series match whether it be carrying or just having a decent team but it is so stressful and exhausting it seems pointless.

Dealing with the LoL community is pretty awful also, I have never met a more disgusting group of gamer's in my entire life and I play everything. I can play 10 games a day and I will have AT LEAST 9 out of 10 of those games filled with trolls and vile people. What sets the trolls and the average trash apart is skill but the system in place does not do it correctly. For instance in SC2 if you can't micro and macro you won't even get out of bronze there. But even if you are a decent player here it is absolute hell just to get out of bronze because of all the crap you have to deal with.

Yes I am complaining. This is insane. If it wasn't for that one game every now and then I get with decent players who aren't foul mouthed are just low lives than I would quit but that one game makes it fun because this is a really good game but the community is absolute crap. There needs to be a way that if your kill/death ratio is decent you can still be moved up in rank. I normally have a higher kill than death and if not I at least break even most of the time with many assists.

If they could figure out a way to have lower tier leagues be set-up so that the players are judged for points individually rather than as a team and after a certain point moving up the ranking system it would change to based off team play that would be great and keep all of the toxic players, the trolls, and those who should probably work on learning to build different characters for different positions than walk in a game with only one summoner to choose from.

Thank you and good night.

19 Comments

skippersd1/3/2015, 2:35:16 PM5 votes

Well, I'll humor you and point out some simple things. 52 Wins - 85 Losses. It's not because your teammates are horrible. A few games could be lost because of bad teammates. If you watched the linked video (it's a good one...), if we assume that you are just as good (not better!) as the average guy, and every game has an afk, you should have 56% win rate. You have a 38% win rate.

Just to put it bluntly: 50% win rate means that that is your skill level. Less means you are over your head, more means you deserve higher. On my main account, i have 52% win rate. On my smurf, i have 57% win rate. To put it REALLY harshly, you don't deserve bronze 5.

Now, with that out of the way, you gotta ask, WHY?

Looking at your stats, you have 9 wins, and 23 defeats with varus. Yes, you have less than 50% win rate with every champion (except a 1-0 Ashe, and a 3-3 Garen) that you played with, but that Varus win rate is atrocious even to your standard. Let's ask the question, WHY are you losing so much with Varus?

1/3/2015: Varus vs MissFortune . You have 121 cs in a 35 minute game. Mf has 202. You start with a longsword+pots, then rush a BT, then an LW. I was wondering for a second, then i realised. You maxed W, did not put a point in E till lvl 13. Varus vs Caitlyn . You are behind in cs. 158 to 69 to be precise. At the 10 min mark Cait got out of controll, and ended up with 33 kills. 1/1/2015: Varus vs Corki . That was not your bad. You were ahead in cs, not died much (tho i suspect Thresh died for you a few times). Sadly mid and jungle got owned. That one was mostly not your fault. 12/31/2014 Varus vs Caitlyn . You beat cait in every way, so what was the problem? They had a fed as hell ZED, and you had 0 defensive items. Of course you will be blown up.

I'm just refusing to see more of that. My conclusions:

  • You start with BT + LW, the so called "legolas" build. You get item 3158 boots with this build, and MAX Q. This build is ALL about sniping enemies to half HP with one Q.
  • At lvl 3, every skill should have one point in it. NO EXCEPTIONS.
  • If you have 5 items as an ADC with NO escape, GET A GA. Or Banshee's. Or even Zhonya (it even makes sense on varus!) You are a slow, squishy free kill for the enemy.

With all that said, I'm certain you will ignore everything i wrote, since I got carried to diamond, and I was lucky, and why would i know better. Let me tell you this: If this was individually scored, you would remain in bronze 5, because you... are both bad at this game, and ignorant of how can you get better.

Cheers

MPendragon1/9/2015, 5:54:53 AM3 votes

My stats: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/23835971

My discussion to you:

You think you have it tough?

Listen up. I can just about guarantee that you will take what I am about to say offensively, and not even listen to half the shit I have to say. How can I prophesize this? I've preached this gospel to tens of thousands of individuals in my moba gaming career, and rarely anybody stops to listen to what I have to say.

"So I play fairly good" There are about 1.5 million players between your rank and my rank. If you were placed in Bronze, that is probably where you belong. And i'm not saying that you can't climb out of it, i'm saying it's going to take you a while - and that isn't anything you should be offended about.

Yes, the community will say "You're bronze trash", who fucking cares what the community says? As you pointed out, it's a toxic as fuck community in the first place. Am I a child pedophile? No. If someone told me I was, would I get offended? Of course not. If you aren't "bronze trash" why the hell would that offend you?

When I first started playing in the moba gaming industry, I was playing DotA in 06 or 07, I can't remember. I loved my Warcraft 3 Tower Defense games to death, and avoided DotA like the plague. Yet eventually it began to basically flood the entire Custom Game list, so thus I tried to play it, and I enjoyed it.

1: It took me 2 years of playing the game before I figured out you got gold from farming creeps. Naturally, there was an option in the game to turn on health bars of units, one that is defaulted off. I thought it was by mere chance that I got the finishing blow, much less that it benefited me in any way.

2: It took me ANOTHER 2 years of playing the game, before I figured out that you could kill your own minions and deny the income to the oppoents as well as the experience. I was mind-blown.

3: Somewhere between this, I joined a competitive in house league called "DxD - which stands for Dota extreme domination." This league single handedly, housed some of North America's greatest moba gamers ever to exist. If you are interested in following up on this, they have since renamed their clan to DRD (Dotally Rad).

4: These players were so far above my skill level, that I got my ass handed to me - again and again and again and again and again. Yet they taught me some of the core essentials and mechanics of playing the game at the competitive level.

5: I kid you not, I was at one point in time, the second worst ranked player in their entire league. It got to the point where nobody would even want to pick me up in a match because they were afraid of losing. Thus, I believe was the end of my DXD career.

Do you think that made me give up? Hell no, it made me try even harder. And I went insane (and just recently came back, rather). I joined a 5-man premade at the local internet cafe that I only went to, to print of some resumes for work, and I saw people playing DotA there. The guy s there and I, played so well together that we basically had a 95% win ratio. We RARELY lost. And then we moved onto Heroes of Newerth, and that game drove me insane, yet I studied it and played it to the best of my ability. I rose to the top 5% worldwide. TOP 5%! From the 2nd worst ranked player in the DotA gaming community, I rose to the top 5%! I mean holy shit, that's what I call a fucking improvement.

Here I am now, I placed in Silver 2, I got kicked around down to Silver 4, and slowly progressed up. I must have gone back and forth for several hundred matches before I even made it to Gold 5. SEVERAL HUNDRED. And the same thing to get into Platinum, SEVERAL HUNDRED.

The message that I would like to get out to you, after my history of moba gaming story...

You are the ONLY person that is holding you back. Never believe you deserve better, WORK for it. You know how many times i've been badmouthed to? I've been called EVERYTHING under the sun. Half the time I just reply to people and tell them the truth. I've been called a hell of a lot worse, by a HELL OF A LOT better. I have played with the BEST of the BEST. I fucking played with mYm for God's sake, and those guys will kick you so far off the map you won't even be able to FIND your way back.

What I have recently discovered, is that attitude is everything. Less than one month ago, I was Gold 3 or Gold 4. And coming to realize that my attitude is the most game changing offense in the game (and I will tell you why in a second), I climbed 150,000 places in the North America ranking system. As I said before in another post, I ALWAYS had that skill. I haven't individually improved my skill level for a LONG time, so I always had the opportunity to advance. It was my attitude that was holding me back.

I truly inspire you to watch some LoL inspirational videos, and I will send some very good links at the end of my post. I guarantee you, from a personal perspective, that WATCHING people play the game will improve your individual ability by at LEAST 25%. That isn't something you can afford not to pay attention to, I encourage you to take the time to watch some high level game-play.

Why is attitude game-changing?

I have been recently studying this, primarily the effects of criticism and self-esteem.

If you badmouth your allies during a match, you're going to learn;

1: They are MUCH LESS willing to cooperate. 2: They are going to be MORE worried about the harassment they receive. 3: They are going to become LESS skilled over time, because they are spending more time dealing with the harassment, then they are improving their individual skill.

Now if you build the self-esteem of your allies;

1: You're going to see the climax of what they are capable of doing, because they're no longer worried about having to deal with harassment. 2: They are going to be MORE willing to cooperate. 3: They are going to become MORE skilled over time, because they're actually using the time that they're playing the game to advance their own individual and teamplay abilities.

They may not be facts, but if you have any doubts, I encourage you to study the behavioral effects on criticism and self-esteem.

Here are some strategies I think you might be able to improve on. If you need any tips, or any further advice on any of these, feel free to ask me and i'll explain them to the best of my ability.

1: Give up your favourite position, and play what nobody wants to. - Example: "main jungle, will fill." (If i'm the 5th position on the team, i'm very unlikely to get my role, and it's quite possible that the people above me are better at it.)

2: Bite the bullet / suck the "you know what" - so to speak. You know how many times I have INTENTIONALLY put myself on the front line, so I am the PRIMARY focus fire target? Hell, I can't count that high - there is probably NEVER a time where I don't put myself on the front line so i'm the primary focus fire target. Sure it gets aggravating, but this is a PvP game, somebody HAS to die. And I would much rather my team put their trust in my hands that I can lead them to victory with the craziest gutsiest initiations they have ever laid their eyes on. And I get harassed to hell if I make a mistake, who cares - fuck them and their shitty attitude.

3: Be an AMBASSADOR for the fight AGAINST toxicity. - I'm no Saint. Riot will most likely eventually permanently ban me (if they haven't already) if they continue to see a refusal to reform my attitude - thus i'm trying to change. I am trying to be the change that I wish to see in this world. If someone's giving another person a hard time, tell them it's not going to help you all achieve victory, but to achieve defeat.

The guy might go on tilt if you continue to harass him, nobody wants that. Now this is probably the most difficult thing to learn how to do, and I might not be able to teach you how to do it. Each "ELO Hell" is different, and to overcome your specific "ELO Hell", you have to figure out what the problem is that you are dealing with, and find a solution to overcome it.

One of the most common things you will probably come across is, everyone thinks they're a God and yet they won't be willing to participate as a team. My guess is, if you build up their self esteem, they will be much more likely to participate as a team, and thus your odds of winning skyrocket.

Blah, let me know if you want me to follow up on anything but this post has gone on long enough. I'm infamous for my walls of texts.

Anyway, here are those videos I think you'd be interested in seeing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjIJEWS3Ntg - The first 20 seconds of this video will make you shiver. You'll come to feel a rush on both sides of this, many times throughout your gaming career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxAabW7JfTQ - This is the video that inspired me to become an ambassador for the fight against toxicity. I will watch it, and listen to it five times in a row before I jump into a ranked game. It pumps me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9diFg82JwE - One I just viewed today actually, but i've watched and listened to it over and over again until the message sunk in.

Join with me against the toxic community, and let's help them help us make this community a better place.

13Kingslayer131/3/2015, 8:32:28 AM1 votes

joined a game right after posting this and yep.. you guessed it.. they started talking about racist stuff and trolling not even out of the lobby yet.

PrinceOfStorms1/3/2015, 8:52:29 AM1 votes

ELO Hell is a myth.

And OP, in SC2 you don't actually need micro until you hit plat/diamond. Basic macro will get you out of bronze, do it moderately well and you'll get gold.

Although the league system in Starcraft is better distributed, as in LoL there's 75% of players in bronze/silver (hint hint: that's where most people belong), whereas in SC, Gold is the average player.

WafflesTheEpic1/3/2015, 10:31:08 AM1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MTO2a7ZFcc

SlackerboyTC1/9/2015, 7:41:54 PM1 votes

Stopped listening the moment you said a level 36 account