Need Help Learning The Role of Jungler

Souperbowelz·1/6/2017, 9:17:37 PM·2 votes·846 views

So, when I started out on League of Legends, I tried a bunch of different roles to see which one I thought fit me the most. Now, I find that support is the role I am the best at, with champions like Soraka, Nami and Taric, although I can't seem to play Braum and Thresh too well as of yet. Currently, the roles I lag behind the most in is adc and jungler, with jungler being the role I'm the absolute worst at. Which is why I wanted to ask you fellow players for some tips and guidelines for playing jungler.

So far, I have tried out Fiddlesticks, Nocturne, Hecarim and MasterYi in the jungle. My problem is not clearing camps - I can do that easily. The problem with me lies solely in ganking. For whatever reason, I always have no clue when I should and shouldn't gank. And when I do, I usually end up dying because I don't really know what to do. I'm probably the worst at junglers that rely on their ults to gank - Fiddlesticks is a big example. I hate that champion in the jungle now because I just can't gank with him. For a while I was playing Hecarim and had pretty "meh" scores - I didn't feed, but I couldn't help my team out much. In the few games that I played MasterYi, I had a tendency to come into lanes where the enemy laner was almost dead, swoop in and kill them. I once had a game where I got a lot of kills as Master Yi, but the rest of the team was left useless because they all lost their lanes. So I kinda dropped that champion - I feel kind of useless when I play him. Upon Ivern's release, I tried to play him - the idea of a support jungler caught my interest. But the fact that, as Ivern, I was unable to pull off ganks on my own and the fact that I tended to get counter-jungled hard when I played him for the first time turned me off from him. He just felt like far too weak of a champion for me. For a long while, I gave up trying to learn jungle and stuck to support and top lane (Nasus was my best friend but now I find that I do pretty bad as him). Now I play almost exclusively support, but of course, if it's taken, I have to go elsewhere.

With that bit of history having been explained, can someone give me tips and guidelines of how to play jungler? I often feel like I should only play support but recently I've been trying to branch out to other lanes, and even though I tend to preform TERRIBLY as jungler I really want to learn how to play it effectively in case I'm forced to play it (since I play mostly blind pick).

6 Comments

SchmidttyGames1/6/2017, 9:21:07 PM1 votes

I learned a lot from watching Foxdrop's Youtube Videos. He is a Jungler (most of the time) and actually does really well at explaining what and why he does what he's doing. I found them to be quite informative.

Kilanost1/6/2017, 9:29:47 PM1 votes

Gank when it looks free AF and farm when it doesn't. Show up and scare the enemy lanes if they over extend but you don't think a successful gank is possibly to give your lanes some relief. Never back at full health unless you're going for a huge power spike because losing some health to get and enemy to back or even get in some poke helps lanes a lot and doesn't cost you much time if you were going to back anyway. Don't gank if you're too behind and might die. Don't gank lanes that have low chances of success. Tell team you need to farm for a bit before you can really help them out if necessary.

Generally speaking your lanes will never take 2 seconds to help you out if u run into the enemy jg while farming. So just do what you can to safely secure as much farm as possibly as quickly as possibly. If you do this, ganking will work itself out.

Oh and play tank junglers or chances are you're not going to have a tank on your team. Fiddle is shit. Noturne is shit. And yi is shit until he's fed AF. The only jungler you mentioned worth playing is hecarim. Even then you have a fairly delayed power spike BC he needs triforce. Also junglers with CC are important with all these people taking assassin's that can't cc the enemy laner when you come.

My 2¢.

EndlessSorcerer1/6/2017, 10:12:31 PM1 votes

I would recommend starting with simple, durable junglers. Good options to start with would be: Amumu XinZhao Volibear

You probably want to avoid carry junglers until you learn the basics of the role, since many of them rely on efficient farming and/or kills to gain and advantage and begin snowballing.

I would suggest watching videos by high-ELO and/or professional junglers (i.e. Valkrin, Meteos, Stonewall008, Nightblue3, and FoxdropLOL). They will typically provide a lot of useful tips while playing and you can often see or hear their decision process and some optimizations throughout the game.

Off the top of my head, some basic optimizations may be:

  • Use hard-CC when the monster camps are about to attack you to cancel that attack and delay their next.
  • Attack Speed is extremely efficient at clearing on most junglers. I'd recommend using about 15% on champions when you need to speed up their clear even if they don't use the stat much later (with a few exceptions, such as Nidalee and Evelynn).
  • Keep a control ward out (or in your inventory) whenever possible. This is important for every champion, but I thought I should emphasis it. There isn't really a good reason not to.

As far as ganking is concerned:

  • When possible, conserve your gap-closer while ganking. If you can get to the enemy champion without using your mobility spell(s), then you can save it to catch them after they try to escape (Flash, dash, blink, etc).
  • You should should try to stay between the enemy and their escape route. You should be trying to move backwards (towards their escape) in-between attacks so that you can body-block them and slow their escape. This also leaves you closer to them if they try to dash or blink past you.
  • It can be risky to gank top-lane while Dragon is up since the enemy team can just group and take it 4v3. I'd recommend ganking top-lane early if possible (after your initial clear) and when Dragon is down; that lane can be quite snowbally due to isolation, so you want to get your ally ahead.
  • Learn to recognize the general times when buff camps spawn during games. If you see the enemy gank bottom lane while their top-side buff is up, you can go steal it from them.
  • Watch when top and bottom lane initially go into lane. If that lane has leashed for their jungler (missing health, mana, or showed up to lane a bit late), then you know where the enemy jungler has likely started and where they will end their clear (where is closest for them to gank).
  • If you have killed the enemy laner, you can either allow your laner to freeze or shove the lane into the enemy tower. If you shove the wave under tower and the next minion wave is coming up, it can be helpful to proxy it to ensure that the wave fully resets and the enemy laner misses as much as possible. This is very situational though and you will have to learn when through experience.

Other tips:

  • Whenever possible, walk up to the enemy champion during a gank and save your gap-closer for after they use their escape abilities.
  • Watch the enemy laners when they go into lane. Whichever lane shows up later and/or missing mana will likely indicate which side of the jungle the enemy jungler started on (which is useful for predicting gank paths and for counter-jungling).
  • Watch the minimap to see when and where the enemy goes to ward, which laners are pushing, which laners are vulnerable
  • Know, roughly, how most laning matchups go so that you can prioritize which lanes are the easiest to gank or require an early gank to decide the matchup.
  • If you have blown an enemy's Flash during a gank but haven't killed them, swing back around immediately after an gank them again. Many people don't expect it
  • If you've killed an enemy during a previous gank in top lane, kill them again immediately after they return to lane. They likely won't have wards up yet and a second back-to-back death can be enough to completely crush any chance that opponent has to recover the lane.
  • Top laners rarely bother warding the lane bushes. As such, lane ganks can be quite surprising and effective.
  • When you kill an enemy laner, shove the minion wave into the tower so they miss gold and experience and so that the minion wave will reset to the middle of the lane. If you can get away with it, clear the upcoming minion wave as well to ensure the reset and maximum missed minions.

You will learn a lot through experience, but these tips should help you at the start.