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Ways to convince or show teammates a better style of gameplay.

Burgress·5/28/2017, 3:15:17 PM·3 votes·407 views

I am having a hard time in low elo plat where all my teammates are out for blood of the enemy which is fine and all but it always backfires and I am always getting aggresive teammates who constantly want to get that kill over getting that farm, i try in the team match to be aggressive towards being defensive player especially early, usually I start every champ select with a notepad.

Let's have a great game guys, watch out for those invades and early ganks and make sure to ward up it's better to be alive then dead even if your enemy is alive as well

Let's have a fun safe game guys let's see who get's the least amount of deaths

I once went 4-0 at 40 minutes it was amazing no one could touch me but I never put myself out too far to be vulnerable, always had wards handy take my advice guys.

Try your best guys to farm early game, deaths hurt the most if you stay alive, even if you don't get kills we will win.

None of the above works even after going through above examples and other I am making up as we speak, next game adc and support get early level 2, try to kill and both die in the process and begin to feed. Now this kinda make me a hypocrite as I am a firm believer in those that feed will always feed no matter how much you gank, help or sit in lane literally zoning the enemy for them they will still find a way to feed. I am ok with this as feed is not always a bad thing as enemies may stick their necks out too far trying to get to that feeder, and mostly it's just the early game feed that hurts during lane phases.

Does anyone have a stats site on play style evolution or something i can add to my notepad on why less deaths is better then more kills, and to prove here is X and X, I don't really care if my teammates don't care but I want to try at least maybe someone will be like "hmm yea he is right I mean as X champ if I farm longer and out sustain, I will take my opponent late game"

Just maybe it's not too much to hope for

5 Comments

Lil DustMop5/28/2017, 4:08:08 PM1 votes

Try bronze, shit is 75% worse lol, im fine with it at this point now. You can't really tell them what to do or they will threaten you so what you have to do is help them out once and they might change their mind. And put quotes on those sayings man, i was confused for a sec. Probably because im bronze.

LostFr0st5/28/2017, 4:10:49 PM1 votes

Have you tried just not saying anything?

If you paste that stuff and someone is on tilt from their last game it'll remind them of what happened and tilt them more.

ValyrianBlade5/28/2017, 4:26:32 PM1 votes

I think this is a classic example that shows you need to play differently to climb in low-mid elo than in high elo.

Even a diamond 1 - Challenger player would be unable to carry in bronze/silver IF they play the same way they do in high elo. Respecting your lane opponent, often assuming their mistakes are intentional baits for their jungler if you don't know otherwise, etc... will not let you carry when the opposite side of the map is trading kills like mad. Even if you're up 90cs top lane, it won't matter if both bot lanes are 12 and 12 and you're only 2 and 0.

This makes me believe a lot of players who learn well from pro / high elo play and try to copy these strategies get stuck at elos well below their skill level. You can consistently win lane and get way up on CS, but have a 50% win rate because your wins and losses are largely determined by the opposite side of the map heavily trading kills. In lower elo you seem to need to go for a bit more, assume mistakes are mistakes and not baits and punish them for it, and play aggressively to get those kills yourself in order to have a significant say over your own fate. It's unfortunate. High elo strategies SHOULD dominate low elo, but they simply don't.

Tobias Brackner5/28/2017, 5:34:19 PM1 votes

Honestly I'd tell them to hit up the boards if you are playing ranked.

You can't exactly convince people mid-match so it's better to invest in their long-term knowledge and have them join in the discussion so they can learn at their own pace.