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Should Rengar get an actual reward for killing Kha'Zix?

ninjaIRL ·9/30/2015, 4:47:33 PM·39 votes·5,678 views

BONETOOTH NECKLACE: Rengar gains a trophy whenever he scores a champion takedown and gains bonuses based on how many trophies he has. 3 TROPHIES: Hunter's Domain: 25 bonus movement speed while out of combat or in brush. 6 TROPHIES: Unseen Predator's range is increased by 125. 12 TROPHIES: Thrill of the Hunt's duration is increased by 5 seconds. 20 TROPHIES: Thrill of the Hunt's bonus movement speed while stealthed is doubled.

He no longer loses stacks so killing Kha'Zix's head doesn't really benefit him other than instantly giving him full stacks if he didn't have all of them already and increased vision range in bushes (According to the LoL wikia). Why isn't the increased vision range listed in the tool tip? Most Rengars would probably opt for maximum amount of stacks before they really want to kill the Kha'Zix anyway. Kha'Zix gaining his 4th evolution point is a hefty reward. Right now Rengar seems to be performing more consistently and better at that than Kha'Zix so we also have to keep that in mind. But we also have to keep in mind that this only occurs when Rengar and Kha'Zix are in opposite teams, which is already quite an uncommon occurrence, unless you main either of them.

It would be nice if he got a tiny bump of extra power when he got Kha'Zix's Head. Something like:

Kha'Zix's Head: • Hunter's Domain: 30 bonus movement speed while out of combat or in brush. • Unseen Predator's range is increased by 130. • Thrill of the Hunt's duration is increased by 7 seconds. • Thrill of the Hunt's bonus movement speed while stealthed is doubled. **• Thrill of the Hunt's true sight range is increased by 1000. **

What do you guys think? I definitely think Rengar actually needs something more for killing Kha'Zix, yet people are reporting that the vision range increase, which isn't even mentioned in game is actually quite strong. There are no numbers that I can find which indicates how much vision Rengar gets when he's in the bushes. Can anyone help in clarifying this?

EDIT: As always, don't forget to upvote if you agree, or want more exposure of this or downvote if you disagree.

63 Comments

insaiyanbacca9/30/2015, 5:21:06 PM7 votes

kha is in a bad spot right now so this would only further weaken him against any rengar plus kha only has 2 good evolution points really so the 4th point is just kinda meh, not even like he has a chance vs rengar unless rengar is isolated and kha'zix has a teammate or 2 with him. the thematicness of the event is kinda screwed over by the fact that its not an even match between the two champs rengar wins the event nearly every time it happens.

McSatan9/30/2015, 10:15:43 PM3 votes

Buff his passive range by 5?

What are you trying to do, break him?

Vicarious1179/30/2015, 10:30:43 PM3 votes

Well as a Rengar main I would like it if something was added, but not gonna lie he really doesn't need it.

Rengar is stronger then Kha'Zix in general, he's far more diverse in his build paths so he can fit into more team comps as well as fitting the meta better.

On top of that, Rengar counters Kha'Zix pretty damn hard, if both of them are equally built and go to 1v1 for their quest the Rengar will almost always win, even if he is isolated. His burst potential is far higher, he could also build as a duelist while Kha'Zix can't feasibly do it, and Rengar can even go kind of tanky (if not full tank) and just wreck the Kha'Zix with his impressive base damages while the Kha'Zix can't do much to him in reply.

Not too mention Rengar's ult counters Kha'Zix's entirely, like it was designed for that for some reason.

So Kha'Zix getting a better reward almost makes sense, since it's innately harder for him to win without being fed first. I mean back in the days when Kha'Zix was OP as shit (mid-late season 3 I think it was? When his ult made him practically unkillable lol), my record for that quest was 21 wins to 3 losses as Rengar, cause I played against a Kha'Zix nearly every game, and the Kha'Zix players almost always asked for 1v1s cause they were so used to be being OP, not realizing that was just making it easy for me.

So yeah, I'd LIKE if Rengar actually got something substantial for winning, but again he doesn't really need it.

LuminescentTide9/30/2015, 5:05:55 PM2 votes

It's an antiquated mechanic that they don't care enough about to update. As it is, Kha'zix is in an underplayed and underpowered position--he needs far more finesse and timing to make plays than many other comparable assassins. Rengar is performing effectively--there's no reason to change this at the moment.

Jasiwel9/30/2015, 10:32:27 PM2 votes

I think Rengar should see a better buff from the Head of Kha'Zix, but I think Kha'Zix needs some buffs before we can really integrate that, The problem right now is already that Rengar is far stronger than Kha'Zix, so if he was given a buff again for defeating Kha'Zix then it could put the other team at a severe disadvantage even more so. Because let's be real, Kha'Zix is in a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE spot right now. He doesn't need massive buffs or a rework. He needs for his Evolved W to mean something and for his Evolved R not to be as clunky as it is. To add to it, he's free game for anything meta right now and the top picks at the moment have historically eaten Kha'Zam alive.

Memejerdomo10/1/2015, 7:04:38 PM1 votes

Rengar technically does get SOMETHING for killing Kha, it's just very insubstantial. He gains increased vision range in brush. Riot has never stated how much extra range, but it is what it is. Commenter above me has a source.

Dengeden10/1/2015, 5:05:34 AM1 votes

Kha's 4th evolution is generally his ult and that's a pretty bad evolution.

Andy88810110/1/2015, 11:01:31 AM1 votes

what if they made it so rangar only have 4 Ferocity point not 5 it would should be an cool reward but crazy op

IDeoxite10/1/2015, 1:12:06 PM1 votes

Was just talking about this the other day. True Khazix might not be in a good place right now, but that doesn't change that he benefits way more and gets more op from this than Rengar Extra evo point is a crazy boost to late game. If you're already in late game, Rengar already has 20 stacks... I cry everytime. I've gotten kha's head multiple times, but it hasn't ever been before I already had 20 stacks. RIP in pepperonis.

Sinister Anubis10/1/2015, 2:19:37 PM1 votes

The reward is you wont lose stacks after dying.

Slamurai Jack9/30/2015, 10:02:39 PM1 votes

I could've sworn that Rengar get's a massive buff to his vision range while standing in a bush if he has the Kha'zix head. Pretty sure I read that somewhere before.