Range supports have take over the Top Lane

Zedthul·2/18/2020, 12:08:26 AM·23 votes·11,437 views

It's been reported that Soraka is getting nerfed to the ground next patch due to dominating the Top lane. Now though, Sona has overtaken Soraka and now has the highest win rate for Top lane on OP.GG with a 4.58% pick rate while Soraka has a dropped to #2 with a 6.87% pick rate. Perhaps it time to consider that it's not the Champion that's overpowered but something else like the Dragon buffs? Or perhaps other traditional Top Lane Champions that have become weak? Since when has ranged supports suddenly dominated the top 2 tier spots in the Top lane?

63 Comments

IVSakenz2/18/2020, 12:34:34 AM23 votes

It is because RIOT took all the focus off of lanes and put it into jungle and the neutral mobs that inhabit it..

soraka and sona are being played top because they do not need to win lane to be effective.. they can be behind in cs.. lose towers early.. even feed the opposing laner, and still be an asset to the team during team fights etc...

No lane really matters if you win it or not initially.. not if your getting every dragon and baron.. because when team fights happen you can take a full lane down and be at nexus within the 30 second respawn timer after you ace the opposing team..

and it all boils down to the fact that damage is way to high across the board... except turrets... they do next to nothing and need a major buff... turrett diving at level 6 should not be a thing...

vgamedude2/18/2020, 12:51:26 AM11 votes

It's because this game has natural major issues with how melee and range is treated.

Rayet2/18/2020, 7:40:17 AM9 votes

Nah, they will first nerf 10 supports, then maybe address the real problem in a wrong way as usual. After the show is over, they will forget to revert the support nerfs. That's how they use their 200+ years of experience.

Warmas2/18/2020, 1:23:51 PM6 votes

At this point the message is to all toplaners is to leave, because they never intend to care about the lane.

Clockwork Mouse2/19/2020, 4:03:48 AM5 votes

Yeah, top is dead, tanks are too squishy, bruisers suck, and damage is too high. RIot needs to do something, this game is in free fall.

IMelchorI2/18/2020, 11:48:15 AM4 votes

this is the problem with ranged top laners. they are convenience picks for people who do not know how to play melee matchups.

99% of the people never pick a ranged top laner because it does fit their teamcomp or because they like to main the champion.

they are just picked as reaction picks against certain melee champions by people who think "oh boy, if i pick this champion then my opponent has no real ability to play against me and i can just auto pilot the lane".

Bijeesny2/18/2020, 10:25:24 AM4 votes

"Range supports have take over the Top Lane"

names only 2 ranged supps that are good atm ignores sona's pickrate ignores every other melee thats high up there with sona and soraka

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

SiG DxD2/18/2020, 11:31:53 AM4 votes

playing melee vs range is not fun, especially when th melee cant close the gap and gets pushed out of lane

that is toplane full of sona/soraka/lucian /vayne

Illabethe2/18/2020, 11:49:15 AM3 votes

It's far simpler.

90% of players are not meta breakers. Every class of champion has hard counters and utility counters who can shut down performance.

Who does Garen/Darius Fear?

It's generally Bot laners. They generally control and hard counter most top lane champions.

Because one group decided to stay in one lane and one group decided to stay in another, the issue has never arisen significantly.

The only times the issue gets an identity is when some high profile matches contain them and other players begin to mimic it loudly.

After Sona and Soraka, expect a cycle of Zyra/Brand/Lulu Top.

It's very likely that Garen's rework has a big impact on why people are doing it a little more now. His attack speed/offensive build that he uses now basically means to win games, you have to shut him down or deprive him at level 1. Otherwise, he just runs around shredding people mid/late game. Most melee range champions dont do this to him. Healing is one of the biggest counters to Garen's kit, as is self mobility/range. It likely started there, and spread to other champion matchups.


Drake priority DOES play a role. The game pacing right now is generally so fast that underleveled junglers + drake cooldowns generally force most jungler rotations to stay bot or lose, so what used to be a goofy deviant play in top lane is now a legitimate tactic, because the threat of a 2v1 top lane gank has diminished so much (In the past if top bruisers wanted to kill a top lane enchanter, all they generally needed was a jungle gank, and many times they could even kill the enchanter in turret dives)

IMelchorI2/18/2020, 11:36:07 AM3 votes

maybe the problem is deeper than that and all ranged top laners are just cheese picks that are picked because their players just want a free lane against melee champions.

is there even a single ranged top laner that is picked for his own value and not just because he counters some specific melee champion or most of them in lane and gets to play the lane without any real risk?

TrueDamage Ninja2/18/2020, 2:07:39 PM3 votes

Meta change. Let the supports fight on top and let the bruisers go to the support lane.

Can't wait for support Garen fighting support Tryn.

vgamedude2/20/2020, 1:09:43 PM2 votes

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Kalista is .7% Pick rate.

Keep in mind that there are 26 adcs, and many off meta "carries" playing that role, like Heimerdinger, Swain, etc.

1.7% is a common pick rate.

It's not Ezreal's occasional 15%-30%, or in meta Ashe/Caitlyn 15%, but it is a common pick rate (fillers and people who like adcs pick those three champs a lot simply because they have severe from level 1 bully potential/uninteractive kits, and because 90% of the community plays meta)

Where do you get these numbers? 26 adcs? There are 19 on U.GG and one is yasuo, kalistas pickrate is 1.4 percent NOT .7 percent. You know, just twice is much is all.

Caitlyn FTW2/18/2020, 9:33:37 AM2 votes

I don't see Lux, Zyra, Lulu and other range supports in the top lane tho

Daddy Ants2/18/2020, 10:38:36 AM2 votes

There's nothing in the rules to suggest that top lane is just for melee champions.

FSRER2/18/2020, 11:30:10 AM2 votes

These two are getting nerfed aparently but just wait until champions like Janna Karma, find their way back Toplane, again

Saezio2/18/2020, 3:43:36 PM2 votes

Maybe riot could just help top lane have importance somehow. If they are on an island of course shit like sona/soraka are gonna be good because they just forego lane to be useful late.

Make top able to carry again and all this shit will be gone, dragon soul is too important and too strong for a buff that lasts FOREVER.

(MAYBE REMOVE THE DAMN STUPID SOUL? OR GIVE SOUL 3 MINUTE DURATION AND ADDED DAMAGE TO ELDER? INSTEAD ADD SOME EXTRA GOLD TO DRAGON TAKING AND KEEP THEIR BUFFS AS THEY ARE NOW)

MrFawknSunshine2/18/2020, 12:29:04 AM2 votes

lol raka is used to counter sett