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can't improve no matter what

Colonell··1 votes·1,556 views

/rant

  1. I watch my replays on replay.gg to take notes on my mistakes
  2. I choose to be more patient and wait for an opportunity rather than 'going ham'
  3. I try to be as consistent as possible
  4. I have a program that makes a little -ping- sound every 6 seconds to train me to look at the map so i'm more aware. I use this every other game.
  5. I picked 1 champion, Diana, and I'm trying to make her the champ that will allow me to carry to higher silver/low gold -> still lose.
  6. My wards are always on CD, and when I jg I buy a pink almost literally every-single-freaking-time I back and use it when trying to get another gank off.
  7. I say absolutely NOTHING in chat. Nothing at all, I communicate with just pings.

Feel free to look up my lolprofile, and laugh at how terrible its turned into. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've acknowledged that there's always room for improvement and that the 1 consistent variable for each game is myself but i'm still losing all the time! Win 1-Lose 2-Win 1-Lose 3. I've already uninstalled League so i'm not distracted by it when i get bored during my studies for the next week. I just want to take a break but it still leaves me wonder how can I improve if I'm still losing when doing everything suggested!

People think that just because i'm a low rank means I know nothing about the nature of PvP. I use to play an MMO for years, and I could roam in open-world with randoms and dominate casual pvp. When it came to serious group pvp, me and my legion of 30-some friends would deny the enemy of so much game content. We would make them feel so hopeless and miserable that they would reroll to another server, or just quit the game in general and come play a game like League of Legends. The difference between my time there and my time here is that i'm not playing with the people I normally do, but it was through playing with them I developed understanding for**_ how pvp works_**. It's knowing how to prioritize the targets in a fight, then knowing how/when to focus them down using the skills that are available to you and your team mates. If the enemy has [insert game-changing ults here] then do this accordingly. It's not rocket science to know that you should kill the squishy-dps targets first to remove their damage from the equation. Yet there I am, watching my entire team blow all their ults/summoners on a full tank alistar whose just soaking up all the damage while the 12/5/8 ezreal is in the back just sitting , pew-pewing away. Then my team rages when we lose a team fight. Give me a fucking break.

It was like 3-4 weeks ago when I climbed from Bronze 1 to promos for Silver 3 in like 10-12 hours of playing. I was so happy because I felt like I was getting towards a more deserving elo. If I plateau'd then I'd be okay with that to, because it would be where I belong. I got to promos for silver 3 and ended up getting trolled by a top nasus who rushed athenes, then rabadons, then hourglass. The enemy team had no AP :| That put me on tilt, and I was stupid to continue where I lose the next game. Ever since then I've just been falling and now I can't even make it past 20 LP silver 5.

/end_rant

TL;DR - No matter what I try I always lose.

12 Comments

RedPandaFury1 votes

I feel you. I'm done with feeders trolls and smurfs in bronze. I can't climb past B4 because everytime I get close I get people that don't want to play and would rather mess around. Or I get pinned against smurfs that just delete us in game because they ar ebored or want to try new things ... like I don't understand smurfing. I don't get why they need to make bronze more difficult than it already is.

Azure Hamster1 votes

I got dumped into B5 from S4 in this season's provisionals. I climbed back out in a month. Just focus on your own play. Smurfs show up on your team as often as they do on the other team.

Caitlyn

RedPandaFury1 votes

I do not find this to be the case. :P lol

Fauxfire1 votes

You kill Weeabos? Please don't hunt me.

Anyway, I want to give my most sincere, serious advice. Just at first glance I notice that your jungle and solo cs/min is, on average, low for the mind-game power spikes the champs the play offer. I would focus quite a bit more on being relevant to your team by keeping up on cs. Also, on all the recent games you lost, I notice your KD is very low and your deaths exceed 8+ most of the time. Are you getting picked at keys moments of the game or positioning poorly in fights? I think that positioning in a team as a whole is something VERY overlooked in the average level of play in League. Your thoughts?

Colonell1 votes

I know my KD has been just god awful lately, I've just been dying a lot of needless deaths. Whenever I die I try to think to myself, "given all the information I knew at the time, what should/could I have done better...[insert explanation here]. Sometimes that helps me catch my myself before making the same mistake, other times I just end up dying more >_>

Do you have any benchmarks per say for typical junglers? Diana is by far my main, so here are the following benchmarks I use with her to help keep me on track: -Get lvl 6 by 6:00 min (no ganking) -100 CS by 15-20min -4 item in my build by 23-25 min mark

Everyone makes jungling sound so easy and by Sky William's definition, "to be a good jungler all you have to do is ward, don't feed, and gank. You're on your way to diamond." However when I jungle, no matter how many pinks I buy I can never get ganks off and its a waste of time so I'd rather be devoting that time to farming so i'm not totally behind. Obviously I can get a gank off if the enemy doesn't ward and they're out of positioning...or if they're just really really dumb. But back when I actually used chat to ask laners on information regarding enemy wards no one ever pays attention or responds.

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

Before I even play Ranked games, I'm playing a lot of Normal games so I can learn more about teamplay specifically.

First, you're going to need chat and more pings in low elo. I see it all the time where Jungler's give an "On my way" ping to a solo lane. You may back off thinking it's a bad gank, but the solo laner may still go in and you don't even notice. In the end they die and give you passive aggressive ...'s. So tell them specifically "Bot after Red"/"Let the wave come to you"/Fall Back Ping. Ping rapidly on a target if you think that target should be engaged upon. A lot of times I find I'm the only one pinging the person to focus in a teamfight, so I make sure I ping the right person.

I started to notice thing I could do instead of just afk playing my role. Like if I play support, now I learned which times to roam, how to poke and peel, etc. If I play ADC, I know when to back off and when to flash in and make a play more often than I did before. If I play Top, I know when to back off because my lane opponent is playing stupidly aggressive and I'm going to get ganked. If I play Mid, I itemize properly according to my matchup.

I watch replays of the best players playing my role. Of course I can't be that good right off the bat, but I make sure I'm playing better each day by thinking what imaqtpie/Deft/Doublelift (ADC main) would have done there. I search specific matchups on a relevant patch on YouTube also. If 2 champs haven't been changed since before the patch you're watching, then it's still ok to watch. Sometimes I even just watch the laning phase.

To really carry your team, you need to make good calls. You need to lead. If you just Aced the other team and your team is scrambling around looking like they don't know what to do or your team is trying to recall, ping the best objective rapidly. The thing I'm focusing on right now is teamfighting with my team. Luckily I get a team that knows what they should be doing (or seem like they do) about 55% (arbitrary number I just think is right) of the time. If you notice someone feeding, tell them to play safe for the time being or something. Sometimes they end up being good in the end, but just need a splash of water to wake them up.

I also watch strict "I don't even think of that when I play but I want to" videos. Examples are Teamfight Breakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIb6HQElw7g and someone maybe even more intensive, LastShadow9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZblvfOK9ajI . These alone are incredibly helpful.

And last but not least, play with a friend or two that has knowledge about the game. In normals, I've met people that are good at playing their roles. I add them and queue with them a few more times to determine if they are as good as I think they are. I have a friend who is a good ADC that has a pretty good winrate. If I had gone along with being a Support main, I would have Supported them in Ranked anytime. But now I want to be an ADC main. So what am I looking for? A good Support. A Top laner or Mid laner should look for at least a good Jungler, and a Jungler should look for at least a good top laner to play with, since when they are good you can focus on Mid and Bot.

So, I really hope this helps. Good luck climbing.

Colonell1 votes

Thank you for a really insightful reply...Several things I have questions on:

  1. I don't use chat whatsoever because I was told that's the "politically correct" thing to do...If someone is playing bad, obviously you shouldn't say that because chances are that person already knows they're playing badly. I also don't use chat to even tell someone to play safe, because I'm afraid that person will get offended and start raging at me or in general because they're upset about their predicament. I just feel like no matter what or how I say something it can easily be misconstrued by the typical player in my elo. I try to sound nice, and easy going. I'd even add in a extra "hehe xD" to make it seem more happy! But alas, I just gave up on chat. Because I don't chat I do use pings a lot...I mean, a lot...Even after I've fallen in a team fight I'm pinging to my team which target they should be focusing.

  2. Everyone makes it seem like in order to climb you have to be basically a god at: warding, laning, fighting, mechanics, map awareness, and decision making. You have to be god-tier at every aspect of the game to climb because you have to compensate for the lack of skills your team mates have. If you're a god at all the aforementioned parts of the game then you clearly deserve to be at a higher elo. If not then well, "sucks to suck." This is the general advice you'll hear from the higher elo players on youtube who discuss what it takes to climb. If I'm a Silver V wanting to steadily climb, why should it be expected of me to be a god at everything in the game when i'm JUST A SILVER V. There are clear bench marks for what players at every elo should be able to do, yet how come those aren't good enough? If I'm in low Silver looking to steadily climb how come I feel like I should be expected to perform at a skill level of someone whose in gold, or plat? I'm not sure if I've lost the meaning of what I'm trying to get at, but I feel like there's such a disconnect there.

  3. I understand and like your suggestion for role synergies and how duo queue can be used to utilize that...If someone catches my eye sure I'll add them and play with them. However, when you're playing ranked solo as a JG is it okay to snowball 1 lane really hard even if it means your other lanes (even if they're struggling and whining about not getting ganks?) This is also another reason why I don't use chat, because when a laner has decided to be pissed at a jungler I could move heaven and earth and still get raged at in chat.

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

  1. I know, there are people like this, but you have to try to communicate with them if their feeding somehow. Since you are the jg, you can say something like "hang on, I'll gank soon". Give them some reassurance that if they play safe for a bit they will be rewarded. If they are still toxic, that's when I don't reply to keep a meaningless argument going. The top laner might whine about getting camped or something (even though they're not really). The most you can give them is an "it's ok I'm here to help". Now another reason you should use communication is when an enemy Flashes, you can tell the exact time it's going to be up again if the person in lane tells you right after they've Flashed. Same goes for other Summs, but this is the most important one usually. Make sure your team types to you "no f gp (gangplank)" or something similar. In higher elos you may even get the time for when it's back up in chat.

  2. Well, I watch Challenger games all the time, and I see people getting to high elo making mistakes that I think don't even make sense. It seems like they shouldn't even be there at the moment, but they still ended up there somehow. You executed all the right ganks, all the right ward placements, and taking all the right objectives can't win you the game. Because it ends up being about teamplay very early on. You can play like a Diamond player in Silver, but there's still no guarantee that you'll win.

  3. So you may have heard that you should "never gank the losing lane". That has some truth to it. But you have to realize what it means for a lane to be lost. If the enemy bot lane just got a Double Kill on yours, don't fret. That's not a reason to give up lane. But if the top lane Irelia is 5/0, it's probably too late, and the Top laner should look to other ways to gain gold/other objectives. Or you can get the help of the mid laner for a 3 man collapse, maybe. Look out for things like that.

Slayerics1 votes

your major problem is playing champions that just aren't good.

Why are you playing kat still with a 37% win rate and a <2 kda?

google "Dynamic queue tier list"

Pick one of the champions from the top of the list, main them, and climb.

Colonell1 votes

I typically play Kat if the following conditions are met...

  1. Enemy midlaner is immobile (Lux for example)
  2. Enemy team-comp doesn't have anything to really stop Kat's channeling.

At the risk of starting the blame game, I do have to say that my failure on Kat can be partly due to my team mates. I know my job as Kat is to assassinate the back line and burst them down. In my most recent Kat game I was trying to kill the fed Ezreal and Soraka in the back line while the rest of my team was fucking around blowing everything on their front line sejuani. Maybe my approach is suicidal, but if I follow suit with my team and focus down the tank I'm not utilizing her passive as efficiently...imo.

TL;DR - I won't play Kat anymore in ranked, I'll save her for normals when I'm in a more "#yolo" mood...I just never play normals because its simply not as fun as ranked.

DeathBurst1 votes

Your list of points you're doing to improve is pretty good. Just keep like that, and you'll improve at some point.

My only suggestion/remark: why Diana? Have you tried enough different champions before choosing her? Sometimes, your style just doesn't fit with some champions, and another champion will just "click" with you and it will come easier.

Colonell1 votes

Well, when I started rank I was placed into Bronze 2, and was stupid so I fell to Bronze 5...It was there when I found Lux and climbed really well and within a week or two I was out of Bronze. I would do really well in lane and overall it was just easy. Then when I finally hit Silver I felt like it was getting harder to win with Lux...Seems like everyone in silver plays anti-Lux picks...ie: Zed/Talon/Yasuo. I feel like she's weaker than all the other mages that got reworked because she received nothing. It was at that point I thought maybe she wasn't the most viable mid laner. That's when I turned to Diana, I like her because she has utility, and practically unlimited dashes. I felt like I needed someone a little more aggressive to kill the squishy back line...Also she's flexible in mid and jungle, and not really banned often

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