Counterpicking

soccerdude97·10/28/2014, 4:15:10 AM·2 votes·810 views

I'm at a high silver rating as of right now. Is there a certain point where people or I should know counters? I've been using champion counter for matchups I don't know. (Most of them, esp. mid, bot lanes) How do you learn them? I'd assume just by repetition obviously pros don't use counter sites, they aren't always accurate anyways. What do you guys think? (btw idk what this url thing is for, that might be nice know too >.<)

9 Comments

EndlessSorcerer10/28/2014, 5:15:42 AM2 votes

For the most part, I would probably ignore counterpicks unless its a really bad matchup (i.e. Darius vs Vayne, Poppy vs Darius, Riven vs Taric). Skill and experience with your champions typically matter far more and many counterpicks require a certain style of play to actually be successful.

If you see an opportunity to counterpick your opponent with a champion you are good with, then you may as well take it if it fits into your team composition. However, I would not pick champions I'm not familiar with just because they counter my lane opponent.

Of course, some counterpicks are so hilarious and simple that you should feel free to take them when you have the chance. For example, taking Taric to the top lane against any AD caster or Lissandra against a melee assassin.

2000boxes10/28/2014, 4:19:49 AM1 votes

i usually find out my counter picks using trial and error so every time i was matched up against tristana and i was a support because its not like my adc can do anything about her because all adc's need some items first i first tried morgana that didnt work, the snare was too slow to catch tristana then i tried alistar it worked but i could only interrupt her rocketjump about 60% of the time then i tried thresh he absolutely gave her the hardest time in lane ever so ya trial and error

Sailor Mint10/28/2014, 4:21:38 AM1 votes

Counterpicking is fairly pointless. Just don't put yourself in a bad matchup.

Know the matchups of the things you can play. Use the champion you are most comfortable on against the enemy champion. If you aren't completely familiar on how to play X, it doesn't matter how well it does against Y and you'd be better playing something you actually know well.

Even without playing the matchup, you can always safely assume things like Syndra/Orianna doing well against melee and assassins do well against low mobility casters just by looking at the kits.

EffectFX10/28/2014, 4:29:17 AM1 votes

Every champion has strengths and weaknesses. If 1 champions strengths encroach on anothers weakeness, then we have a counterpick.

Counterpick websites will give you a vague idea of what they are. That being said, a counterpick only works if you understand the champion you're playing. You also run into the weakness of how a counterpick may not fit into a team composition. And then theirs does the champion you counter still scale really hard if they get gold? For example, Mundo has a relatively weak early game, but he scales EXTREMELY well into the late game due his high base damage and how he scales with HP.

Llanite10/28/2014, 4:09:53 PM1 votes

You should definitely start playing counter. Mid champs divide into 4 groups. +Face smasher Riven/Lee/Morde/Diana +Mobilize assassin FIzz/Zed/Talon/Kat/Akali +Mid-ranged mages Annie/Veigar/Swain/Anivia +Artillery Cass/Brand/Xerath/Karthus The 4th group is mostly for late game, no threat in lane but you can't kill them either. 1st>2nd>3rd and 3rd>1st. Within the same group, it's mostly skill matchup except some weird interactions (e.i Annie>Ahri due to Tibber blocking charm, Akali>Fizz Veigar>Annie).