Is Riven gonna stay like that for long?

RTX Warnoise·12/5/2014, 6:16:45 AM·4 votes·1,246 views

I don't know how many times people posted qq threads about Riven, some people say you have to build armor to counter her which is not really a solution. Well no. You might have a chance vs riven only when she is used by a terribad player. All what riven has to do is rush brutalizer then stomps you without any hope of escape from the stuns, knockups, dashes.....

How the hell is Riot leaving a champion with: A dash, a knock up, a shield ( that scales with fucking atk dmg), a stun, a steroid and an AoE ulti that does huge amount of dmg, like that without even 1 weakness that other champions might exploit. She literally has no counter. Even Vayne, Alistar, or any other popular anti melee champion has no chance vs her mobility.

Riot, normally a champion with high mobility shouldnt have any type of cc or lower dmg than the other champion without mobility skills to balance out its set.

Riven is too strong and very annoying to play against. Please tone down her dmg a bit to make up for her high utility.

24 Comments

Cale01712/5/2014, 7:14:52 AM5 votes

I never thought I'd be around to be saying something like this, but pal you should have seen Riven back in my day. The Riven there is now is a shadow of what she used to be in late season 3 and early season 4, when I was also maining her. If you didn't get first blood at level 1 you were considered a bad Riven back then.

Her Q used to deal much more damage.

Her shield used to last much longer.

Her ult used to give a bit more bonus.

Her regen got cut by about 45%.

Her base damages were lowered.

She went through a crippling series of nerfs specifically meant to weaken her early game so Riven players had to work more to hit that snowballing point. And you know what happened? For a long time she was considered nerfed too far and had been broken in a bad way. People stopped playing her, all except the dedicated Riven mains. And you know what happened then? They started realizing that while you aren't going to get any level 1 kills with her, she was every bit as viable as she used to be provided you worked for it.

Riven snowballs hard, and she can be a force to be reckoned with if she gets fed. But the only time a Riven is going to get that fed is if your team has been feeding her those kills because I can assure you, from personal experience, that it is NOT as easy to get her snowballing as it once was.

If you need help playing against her? Learn her. Learn her in and out. That's hands down the best way to learn how to beat a champion in this game, not by watching what they do but by knowing how they play. She's all about mobility and smart positioning, and about interweaving her passive procs in and between her Qs, and Ws to deal as much damage in as little time as possible. She is by no means broken, either positively or negatively, you just don't know how to play against her.

Make her waste her abilities so she's waiting for them to cool down and punish her with she overextends, which is incredibly easy for her to do considering that her entire kit will push a wave even if she doesn't want to while she's going for you.

Dodge her Qs.

Stay away from her immediate area if you haven't seen her use her W in the last five seconds.

If she wants to turret dive you, make her work for it by moving behind your tower, giving her no straight way to get directly back out without having to move through your jungle because she'll have already popped both her dash and her Qs trying to get to you as quickly as possible. Makes her easy jungle food.

ccseancc14312/5/2014, 7:13:37 AM2 votes

If shes not played in Korea shes bad.

City of Toronto12/5/2014, 8:22:36 AM1 votes

OP should try playing Riven. Tell me how that goes.

ShinigamiOtaku12/5/2014, 8:26:29 AM1 votes

i cant believe people are still crying about riven after all the nerfs she had. She takes allot of work and patience to get going. Like allot of people say, if the champ is so op go play ranked with them and carry yourself to diamond

Kuroi8612/5/2014, 8:43:30 AM1 votes

http://www.championselect.net/champions/riven

My personal favorite counters for Riven are Renekton and Pantheon.

BeatzBoyFTW12/5/2014, 8:56:19 AM1 votes

Darius Garen Gangplank NasusTeemo counters her pretty well.

MrSlowDie12/5/2014, 9:22:08 AM1 votes

guys, riven has hammered by nerfs, people said she's trash tier, and now, somehow gaining popularity, :/

Hayaishi12/5/2014, 1:19:38 PM1 votes

A kit as stupid as Riven's is never going to be balanced

Lord Dusteon12/5/2014, 3:12:57 PM1 votes

If you are in draft/ranked, choose a bruiser/tank and build armor while stomping her. My personal favorite is Nasus (innate lifesteal + tankiness), since you can stand near your minions, forcing her to push the lane (which gives you free farm and stacks, and if Riven fails to kill the minions makes her take lots of minion harass).

If you don't abuse her after she uses her combo, or if you push all the way to her turret, or build zero armor vs a full ad champion thats your problem.

RTX Warnoise12/5/2014, 6:51:51 AM1 votes

bump

Drunk Rummate12/5/2014, 3:17:49 PM1 votes

as a riven main, i find playing against riven to be exceptionally easy

why? because i know how she works in and out. i know her break points and damage output. i know her power spikes and how to fight around them.

thats the key to beating almost any champion i've found. just play them for awhile until you figure out the little nuances you wouldn't be able to observe from the outside.

the biggest buff to riven recently has been the reduced selection of champions like darius, jarvan, and renekton in top lane. she really struggles in those matchups due to their powerful early game, and late game she's not all that great against people who build super tanky (because riven is a burst champion).

BRTHEBEST12/5/2014, 8:04:28 AM1 votes

Learn to play Renekton and Garen well, and you will never lose another Riven lane. Well, assuming you don't have the reflexes of a dead turtle.