Why does Auto Fill still exist?

4th Shot Killer·6/25/2017, 10:57:00 PM·12 votes·5,091 views

Can someone explain to me why autofill is still a thing? The sole purpose of it was to reduce queue times (which is only a real issue in higher elo), yet from what I hear higher elo players hate everything about it since people tend to be incredibly specialized in plat+. Sure, I could learn to play 5 roles but me and my team are gonna be at a MASSIVE disadvantage when I'm playing a role I haven't played in many many games vs. a player on the other team getting their first pick in said role. I mean look at the LCS and any other competent league player, and you can see that they rarely go beyond a single role, let alone two roles. It essentially reduces a ranked experience to a coinflip where you're praying that you don't get matched in your 3-5th best role against someone who literally mains it.

Why Riot, why?

tl;dr: Autofill introduces an unneeded rng aspect to ranked for shorter queue times

51 Comments

Sir Fuzzi6/25/2017, 11:29:52 PM6 votes

Almost solely to resolve queue times because there would be a vastly underfunded number of supports otherwise.

Autofill demands you actually be good at the game, God forbid-- it takes us back to the era, waaay back when even I played ranked, where you'd get boo'd out of court for being a filthy one-trick. If you couldn't man-handle two roles equally effectively at the minimum, you ran a high risk of being obsoleted in a game.

You're complaining about having to learn. Honestly, if you 'haven't played many games' as anything, whether a champ or a role, you shouldn't be in ranked. Ranked is a competition, not a game. The rest of it is a game; they focus on the sport in the competitive queue. You're expected to be something of an adult, responsible for your own inability to adapt to a situation. That is a weakness, and frankly, you earned that loss for not being quicker on your feet and more ready to take what came. Ranked demands game sense and game knowledge to be on point. The more you can bring before you've even selected a champion... be it knowledge on champ kits, builds, what objectives your composition will take, what kind of jungler you'll be countering, literally anything and everything you can trap in your brain, will all increase your chances of winning a pitched fight.

If all you can do is pray for one role and hope you never get filled elsewhere, you should be in norms and not ranked. I may not play ranked, but I sure as hell wouldn't go in without being able to adapt to at least four of the five positions in the game, especially nowadays-- with players like you (no offense intended) pigeonholing your playability into fewer roles, the ability to adapt is probably very critically what decides a win or a loss. And while I don't care for that responsibility, and won't say I am that adaptable player, I can tell you for certain you are not and you have no place blaming anyone but yourself for your inability to play any champion or role. The game offers you tool after tool to practice-- in fact, barring item sets, the ability to practice has never been more proliferated. And with runes on the way out, maybe now's the time to practice the theory and play, and get into crunching the ranked experience when new runes are out.

TL;DR? It's not anyone's fault but your own that you suck at any given champ or role. Account for, and learn from your mistakes instead of demanding Riot make up for your shortcomings.

Am I the only one who remembers the days where you needed to be able to swing more than one role? Am I imagining this?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo6/25/2017, 11:23:22 PM5 votes

HAVING TO FILL ROLES FOR GAMES HAS ALWAYS BEEN A THING

ITS NOTHING NEW

STOP CRYING

Beas7ie6/26/2017, 12:26:06 AM4 votes

We need the option to turn it of. At least way down at my level(I was in Silver at the highest and stopped playing the game completely for over a year so now my elo would probably be at about Rubber 3 or 4) there are plenty of players to get matched with.

While other people may feel otherwise, personally I would rather wait longer to get the role I want with teammates who also got the roles they wanted instead of getting dumped roles we have no interest in playing, let alone are good at.

If other people want to autofill and get shorter times and/or other rewards then great for them. They can do that. Let ME turn it off. I have to wait longer to get my role, I'll wait. I've been in a lot of lobbies where things got toxic FAST because someone got autofilled and no one would trade them. Even had a game where the person dumped into support just ran down mid inting while typing "FUCK AUTOFILL!" in chat every time he inted.

It's one thing to expect people to be familiar with all roles, but it's not to expect people to be proficient in all of them. In higher level play all these "pros" usually play one, maybe two roles. At higher divisions, the people usually play one or two roles. A lot of streamers will just stream them playing one or two roles.

I remember years ago Morello himself comparing this game to real life sports like Basketball and Football and saying that they all had one "map" as his explanation for why Summoner's Rift is the only main map they had at the time and why the canceled Magma Chamber.

Well guess, what. All these professional players just play about one position. If you take a lineman in Futbol Americano and expect him to be quarterback while moving your quarterback to be a linebacker, then things aren't going to go well. If you're playing soccer then you don't take your goalie and move him to be striker(or whatever they call the offensive positions). In each sport, all the main players just have ONE, maybe 2(3 at the most) positions that they regularly play.

Why should LoL get to be the "special snowflake" in this.

If I put top and jungle or mid and top then I want to be in those roles. I don't want this "Oh I see you put in for mid and top so we're going to dump you in support because fuck you" bullshit. I'm nice so I'll ask nicely if someone can trade and just dodge at the last second if no one does, but I've seen other people really get nasty.

TLDR

LET US TURN OFF AUTOFILL!

KVbqbFsC8e6/25/2017, 10:58:35 PM1 votes

It keeps que times lower in order to keep Flex que alive.

Darkdemon6536/25/2017, 11:07:45 PM1 votes

The only sort of valid reason exists in only ranked, and that reason is that part of developing in LoL is learning multiple champions in every role.

m12lrvRvsB9/7/2018, 3:09:17 PM1 votes

i could spend my lobby ban on autofill i would do it every time #banautofill2018