@Riot Can we have real discussion on reworks instead of surprises
This is in regards to any future reworks that are planned.
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TL;DR Let us have greater input on the stages in between character rework discussion and the final reveal
- Are you like me?
- Have you got a champion you like to play up for a rework?
- Are you ready to enter great discussions on the possibilities of what a kit rework would look like?
well... TADA !!one!1! that's really too bad because the final reworked version is already here and us guys at Riot spent allot of time in secret creating this so you better learn to love it...because well. Its done! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
All jokes aside my main reason for asking this is because the only reworks that have come out recently have been hush hush until all abilities/ideas/lore have been fully fleshed out and released on PBE. Now this works for new champs but I do not believe it works for reworked champs and here is my main reason:
- reworked champs already have some kind of thematic as well as a loyal playerbase
to suddenly release reworks the way you are currently doing without greater attention to an apparent community feedback often alienates players
This isn't to say you don't listen to us players; you really do and its great. The problem is the gap between listening and a final creation is one big unknown. We have little idea what you are keeping/introducing/changing
Now as my name implies I am a Shen main. I have played him allot post and pre rework. I still enjoy playing him but I do wish (as I am sure allot of other players do) that consideration was taken with introducing game changing elements into his kit without feedback from players. I think allot of players who had their favourite champions reworked feel the same as I do.
Champions need reworks and some champions definately need a kit overhaul...I have no issue with that. My gripe is that we have no real input as a community on those changes until they are finalised and only open to tweaks.
I really do think Riot has great feedback and correspondence with its players, which I greatly appreciate. I just think that involving players in the rework process more is a great idea for both learning more what players expect and customer satisfaction.
Thank you for reading

his rework had the largest community communication of any of them, and ultimately because of it failed to address his game health issues because the community was obsessed with the unhealthy parts and convinced riot to leave them, and now we all suffer because of our mistakes.
ult rework, I still miss Valor.