i really dislike snowbally junglers

I'm not saying they're bad, but to me when playing them and seeing them on the enemy team, it's very interesting sure, but you/me/anyone else will feel like a burden if you cant make your presence known. you need kills, you need that kill gold, that's what makes them problematic to play.

when you decide to invade and counter jungle to make up for some of that gold you lack. it wont matter much if someone like as they function even with some form of gold deficit from the counter jungling. Meanwhile their gank potential to make up for it is just as good if not better to obtain map control for that reason

I'm not a jungle main, but I wanted to hear others thoughts on assassin type junglers.

what makes you enjoy them for those that play them.