I Believe Varus is a Viable APC

TwinkiePro·1/7/2016, 7:39:24 PM·3 votes·741 views

I was goofing around the other day and decided to try Varus as an APC, building him almost strictly AP. Now, I've yet to try this in norms, but I believe it is an extremely viable build. The best way to build him that I have figured goes as followed:

item 3115 >> item 3020 >>item 3027 >> item 3146 >>item 3089 as your core items. Conditionals: item 3040 , item 3135 ,

item 3115 Augments your already decent W passive, which has a .25 ap ratio on auto attacks. with 2 ap items, it equates to 50 bonus damage.. However, this item essentially bumps it to 40%, granting 80 bonus on hit magic damage, as well as providing a heft amount of cdr, essential for the other half of his passive, the true killer. Whenever you AA an enemy, you apply a stack of blight. If you cast an ability and it strikes the enemy afflicted, it chunks them for a percentage of their max health in magic damage. At rank 5, it has a 5% base plus a 1% per 50 AP ratio, which with the standard build of the four items above, equals an extra 10% PER STACK OF BLIGHT

Wait, wat... That's right, with just these items, ~520 AP and At level 18, your AA does 136 AD + 208 magic damage (not much really), but each auto is potentially 15% more damage, up to 45%! not to mention your ultimate has a 100% ratio! PER TARGET This shit can hop to nearby enemies, and root them for 2 seconds, as well as applying full stacks of your blight. 720 burst root, quick Q shot for 300 plus 45%, is enough to destroy an adc. That is, without armor and MR factored in. It would probably take a couple more autos, but it would still chunk effectively.

item 3009 are a viable alternative, although you should only be using the Q for long range poke or to activate stacks of blight. item 3040 will give you an utter shit ton of AP when combined with item 3027 and item 3089 , giving you a rough 222 AP, which will add an additional 50 magic damage to autos (up to ~258 per auto [Correction: it will add closer to 90, so 300 magic damage is a better rough estimate]), and an extra ~4.5% to each stack of blight, making it a very effective tank shredder. item 3135 Void staff can work, but it's a trade off. 30% MR shred, or 220 AP. Seraphs, in my opinion, is by far the best choice.

Edit 1:

So, combat effectiveness and numbers and build are out of the way, let's talk about things that seem wasted.

Firstly, his Q loses a large chunk of its power. Instead of a powerful sniping ability, it becomes a Poke tool, as well as a passive Proccer (that's a word now). A lot of the damage of this build moves the power of his Q to his W. This does, however, effectively reduces his range. Fully charged, it will do around 452 with armor disregarded. And that's if you use it for poke. There is an alternative though, as suggested by Stiv1234:

When I play him, I usually rush after Nashors. Its risky because you will be squishy af, but you can 100-0 squishies with R-AA-E which feels so great.

Secondly, his passive Steroid. If you don't know what it does, I'll explain. After killing a minion, Varus gains 20% attack speed for 3 seconds. After a champion kill or assist, he gains 40% for 6 seconds. In my opinion, I only see this passive as good for only wave clearing, and I'm sure mains will agree, as they build him to attack far and from a distance, and only utilize the passive to mainly farm. It's not completely wasted on this build however, as auto attacking is still necessary to apply stacks effectively. item 3115 give 50%, allowing fast clearing. The total 40% ap ratio on auto attacks keeps your wave clear at standard ADC level, with no crit however.

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Thanks for reading all, would love to see any suggestions or criticisms!

21 Comments

idontplaythemeta1/7/2016, 7:44:21 PM2 votes

Yes! 120 ish % of max hp full build w passive proc is fun, buuut, viable? Idk but when I did it I guess I was a pretty bad player (not that I'm much better now.)

Olath Quortek1/10/2016, 8:49:28 PM2 votes

AP Varus is completely viable imo. I use a similar build: item 3006 item 3115 item 3146 item 3100 item 3135 item 3089

I personally like Zerker Greaves just for the early AS boost. Nashor's is a beautiful core item with all that AS and CDR. I love the sustain on new Gunblade for him. Lich Bane I've only recently started using consistently; the Spellblade is a good addition to damage but the real reason I get it is the 10% CDR. (I get another 10% from runes atm.) And then Void and Deathcap just for pure damage.

VictoryDance961/7/2016, 7:42:28 PM1 votes

Viable, yes. Preferable, no.

Stiv12341/7/2016, 8:18:52 PM1 votes

When I play him, I usually rush item 3285 after Nashors. Its risky because you will be squishy af, but you can 100-0 squishies with R-AA-E which feels so great. Also, I think that AA'S staff is pretty bad on him, because he doesn't have the low cooldown abilites to stack it up quickly, and you will be pretty useless midgame.

khorney1/7/2016, 8:29:19 PM1 votes

your core items are whack, better build right here, nashors runaans lich bane what ever boots u want whether u want beserker greaves cd boots or sorce shoes it doesnt matter rage blade deathcap is what i use roa useless archangel again is useless you dont need ludens hextech is a meh. the point of ap is you need max cd to be able to proc your spells more do not get rid of any cd and the constant aa damage in this build is to legit you sit at right around 600ap in the end which is more then enough and the runaans is for team fights and clearing waves fatser then any other champion in the game period regardless of there build ap varus clears waves faster then any other champ period that is a fact

The Deckowner1/7/2016, 8:36:56 PM1 votes

tbh building ad caster varus mid is much more cost-efficient, since all mage items are expansive as hell, and varus's ap scalings arent even too high and his e(or w i dont remember) range is nothing compare to q.