Fiora or Darius?

Saqib Ali·7/6/2015, 8:03:18 AM·1 votes·980 views

Hello Guys,

I have almost enough IP to buy Fiora or Darius but i am stuck between two of these can someone please suggest me which one should i buy?

Thanks.

4 Comments

Baby Ghoul7/6/2015, 8:30:32 AM1 votes

Fiora is my favorite, but it depends on how you like to play. She's more an assassin that is just tanky enough to be played top lane. You can build her like a bruiser though.

She's an all-in champion that does a ton of upfront damage, but she has no CC, no escape, and her sustain isn't the best despite her passive. It can really take some getting used to for some people. The double gap closer is great, and a riposte at the right time can change the outcome of a duel. As for her ult, many people are divided on it. I mostly use it to finish off duels, or to stick to someone who is trying to get away from me. It's definitely not press R to win against smart opponents or your counters. I really dislike ulting in most team fights at the start, especially if they have a tank because it doesn't do as much damage most of the time and I never know where I'll end up. Fiora has a huge problem with being locked down, and they never clump that neatly anyways.

She also requires quick reflexes, and it's harder for you to catch up if you've been put behind early game compared to other champions. Luckily her early game is pretty strong. Her build path isn't as diverse as some champions either. Her core items are Last Whisper(Armor Pen.), and you can get away with just Tiamat(AoE) for a while before having to upgrade to Ravenous Hydra. Build attack damage over attack speed. I don't see attack speed Fiora's having a lot of success. What you build from those 2 items is really up to you and mostly situational. I don't like getting Beserker's Greaves on Fiora either even though I see that as her most common boot pick. She does normally needs at least 3 damage items. Some more advice I would give is roam after you win your lane. A roaming Fiora who got slightly fed is very dangerous for the enemy team, and she can straight up dive champions under towers if they're squishy enough.

Something else to add is that Riot is working on her rework at the moment that will be visual and gameplay I believe. They posted on the boards not too long ago some ideas they were trying out, and I thought they were all amazing. They were thinking about giving her mild CC, most likely situational. We'll learn more soon I suspect.

Noctius287/6/2015, 8:33:59 AM1 votes

If you are more confortable with Garen then pick Darius If you are more used to something like Yi then pick Fiora

Other things to note Fiora is a good bit more technical thanks to how useful but hard her ripost is to use Darius is the master clean up with his ulti Fiora is a master tower diver with her ulti (plus with life steal it can heal you like crazy) Darius has some utility with his aoe pull

Personal opinion I would go with Darius but that's because I main Garen and they are very similar

AyRe CoNteMpT7/6/2015, 8:55:10 AM1 votes

darius is very hard to play and has many weaknesses, even tho i think a master darius player is easily one of the strongest toplaners.

fiora on the other hand, im not saying shes easy to play, has alot more raw power and snowball potential and especially for beginners at low elo, its extremely hard to judge her power and will most likely suicide into her.

also, she has an easier time coming back after falling behind slightly. coming back with darius requires alot of experience and skill.

after saying this, i would say go buy darius so you can learn the game better.

NemeBro7/6/2015, 8:56:08 AM1 votes

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Hello Guys,

I have almost enough IP to buy Fiora or Darius but i am stuck between two of these can someone please suggest me which one should i buy?

Thanks.

Hmmmm... Darius is my main, but Fiora is my waifu... choices...

Both Fiora and Darius are similar in that they have huge amounts of melee damage, but are prone to being locked down by CC in team fights. Both are also slated for minor (I think? Fiora's might be more extensive) reworks in the future.

I am far better with Darius than Fiora (which says more about how good I am with Fiora than with Darius, kek), so I'll go over him.

Darius is one of the biggest melee lane bullies top lane, with some of the highest early game power. Even other lane bullies like Riven tend to be bullied by Darius more times than not. He has strong physical damage burst, sustained magic damage with stacks of his passive, and his ult is a true damage nuke that scales off of the aforementioned passive. All of these abilities scale off of Darius'AD, meaning that you get to build a single stat to damage your opponent with every damage time. Fun, right?

Darius' Q is his main damage ability. It's great for poking and harassing your enemy, and it does more damage if your enemy is on the outer ridge of its AOE. His W is a good AA modifier that slows movement and attack speed, giving him a bit of utility and making duels against pesky AA champs like Tryndamere or, well, Fiora easier. His E is his sole crowd control, being a hook that pulls everything in its AOE toward Darius so he can dunk them. This ability's CD is quite long however, and without it Darius is very easy to punish. Proper management of Darius' E is what separates a bad Darius from a good one (I'm okay for my division I think). It is most often used as an initiation, but it can just as easily be put on hold for when a melee tries to harass and you trade back. Darius wins most extended trades due to his passive, so waiting to use it for another rotation of your combo can be great for chunking HP or even securing a kill. Oh, and it has a great passive that gives you free percentage armour penetration, meaning that armour stacking is not as reliable against Darius. Darius' ult is nothing short of amazing. A true damage dunk that does more damage the more stacks of bleed the enemy has on them (to a max of five ticks) that resets on kills? Fantastic.

He definitely has drawbacks though. For one, you pretty much need to snowball. A lot of top laners scale better than you (Fiora, for example, does), and though Darius' team fight is a bit underrated, he's definitely not great at it. Furthermore, Darius is one of the most immobile champs that go top lane. He has fairly low base movement speed for a top laner (340), and has very little mobility in his kit (he gains five percent MS for each bleeding champion, which is okay, but not amazing). Darius also has a hard time against a lot of ranged top laners, it must be said, though this weakness is overstated IMHO. Teemo for example isn't all that hard with Darius, in my experience. Quinn on the other hand is virtually impossible. Darius also gets no tank stats in his kit. He has to build tanky because he blows up super fast if he builds full damage without ever reaching the enemy, which once again ties into the fact that he's fairly immobile.

In team fights, always remember, Darius is not a tank, and he is not an assassin. I see a lot of Darius players try to initiate in the front line, only to get kited, CC'd, and blown up. I also see Darius players try to dive the enemy ADC, only to get kited, CC'd, and blown up. Darius' place in team fights is as a peeler. He hook combined with his movement and attack speed slow make him good at pulling assassins off the carry, and his high damage means he should be able to kill them without much fuss. Darius should win a duel with most assassins assuming equal farm.

Still though, Darius brings an obnoxious amount of damage even if built full tank in the early laning phase (which I'd recommend if against squishy damage dealers like Riven, by the way), and can easily carry a game due to his high damage while still being respectably tanky. I think Fiora would probably be better at carrying games if she gets a lead due to her higher damage as the game goes on, relatively better mobility (no escapes though), and higher team fight damage with her ult. A Fiora that gets ahead is terrifying. A Darius that gets ahead is dangerous, but manageable if you play smart.

edit: Holy shit, I didn't think this post would be so long.