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I have tried so hard to adapt to whatever vision riot has. And i just cant.....

Neobus·11/25/2019, 2:24:10 PM·2 votes·1,294 views

Hi! i have been a marksmen main for 7-8 seasons now. Caitlyn, transitioning to kalista, transitioning to Jhin, and well, last season i tried every adc, but had minimal success due to games feeling like they scale....

Preseason 10? Bot lane is a fucking nightmare and a joke all wrapped up in one fucking bundle of steaming pile of tragedy. With dragons being so prominent, the pressure on bot lane is fucking beyond measure. let alone the bullshit I have had to lane against the past 10 games. Fighters going bot lane "Supports" And building lethality and just dicking me over because as an adc, if i dont have peel. im dead to their engage/ burst. How am i supposed to have peel in the first 8-10 minutes of the game when i need 2-3 items to do meaningful damage, yet fighters like vi, panth, camille, just need a fucking duskblade or Sanguine blade and just push me out of lane because they can just tower dive me if i try to farm under tower?

On top of, games end so fucking fast due to dragons, adc's barely have time to get 3 items if they get behind in lane at all..... the power these dragons have, honestly doesnt provide near as much benefit on marksmen, compared to every assassin, mage, fighter, etc. This preseason...I have tried. Trying to learn and adapt to what i have to do to actually enjoy league again bot lane, because its the only lane i enjoy and decent at. But i think this might be the final last straw when shit like this is allowed to fucking exist, Especially when heimer bot lane is now a meta thing, god knows why.

This is both a rant, and a plea. help me understand what i have to do please. I am still winning some games, but i lose lane so terribly it leaves a horrible feeling in my fucking mouth, even when i execute mechanics super well, secure every objective, the single fact that an entire subclass that counters mine early, can just tell me to sit down and farm, and not pvp for 15 minutes until i hit mid game spike, its just honestly a bad feeling.

I understand adc's HAVE to be countered in the game, so im used to safe lanes being aggressed on by poke lanes, but when kill lanes are meta like this, with no fucking consequence. i just feel so fucking powerless.

2 Comments

blindasleep11/25/2019, 4:22:02 PM3 votes

Working as intended. Riot wants games to cap at around 30 minutes, so if the team with a massive snowball can't end it elder sure as shit should.

Waka FIocka11/25/2019, 3:30:29 PM2 votes

i've been watching other people suffer through these changes (for a living) on twitch lol. i played it for a few days and hated it so damn much as a supp main that i actually uninstalled. things i hear a lot of (professional) supp/adc mains bring up is how they can't seem to catch a break in their lane anymore. they ask themselves why it's like this every game when im sure they know the answer already.

the dragon priority battle has the area under constant surveillance. botlane is not what it used to be because we are so underleveled and starved for gold and vision with the new supp items + bush/alcove additions (and exp cuts -- 2% adds up. we are anywhere between 3-6 levels under solo laners depending on how hardcore camped we are). it's really hard to farm and level now. if your botlane doesn't get ahead in the first 5 mins you will be stomped. you just can't compete with the winning botlane if they get ahead because of how feast/famine the new system is for this entire lane and their means of income. Your supp and adc won't be able to recover when the enemy team has drake priority, all the turret plating gold, your entire botside jungle/vision, and likely herald side as well because by this point they are so souped up you can't even go out for vision anymore.

csing is hard when you are 4 man ganked every time you get back to lane too. people try to say that supports got BUFFED lol because oh you're still getting gold from csing! all that FREE GOLD you got! (insert random as snumber here 2000 FREE GOLD!) but no. you're not. you're going for some safe cs with your adc only to get jumped over and over under turret before 10 mins. You can't get good farm anymore and your item finishes, leaving your only income as assists or kills. if you are behind you won't be getting many of those so....

but you know, why wouldn't the enemies frequently stop by botlane when you're so easy to corner and kill while undergeared and underleveled lol. riot makes it too tempting to tear the losing botlane a new one the entire 'laning phase' (when i uninstalled people were already calling for ff at 7 mins usually. enemy would have like 12-18 kills while we had 2-4 wtf). this is the new normal i guess. you will never have enough wards to cover all the new hidey holes + bushes they put around botlane and enemies will always be there for jungle priority around drake pit.

when you are winning the game is also boring. i feel bad when im on the winning side with 30ish kills and the enemy team has maybe 9? this isn't fun for anyone, win or lose. then you have elder dragon auto executing people as if there wasn't already a huge damage problem in this game... you make one wrong step and you are deleted even without that buff so actually im pretty confused why they thought this was necessary other than to give one final chance for a severely behind team to MAYBE win? but how is that fun either? your team is losing all game and one dragon could make the team doing everything right lose. so offputting to me. there's too much handholding in this game with multiple heralds, dragon soul, elder dragon, baron, turret plating, scuttles, pitiful support welfare, etc. but none of it seems to help anyone but the team already ahead, further snowballing things in their favor.

im keeping an eye on things, waiting for some tweaks. i hope they come soon because the game needs it badly.