Literally nothing much to say, the title says it all. Rank games especially, like it pisses me off that Im just wasting my god damn time not even climbing but going back and forth with the same god damn bull crap for weeks. This is why this game gets no where and all the pro players are going to fortnite because its entertaining unlike this crap.
Oleandervine5 votesAFKs are handled by Leaverbuster. Feeders are harder to detect unless someone says "I'm feeding." There's no way to properly and adequately differentiate between someone having a really bad game and feeding, unless you can see that they're trucking it down mid all game. Even then, you'd probably need to submit a support ticket for a manual evaluation of that person.
People using racist/homophobic language, or generally flaming in chat is super easy to detect by an automated system. Behaviors, not so much, since the AI required to do such is probably more expensive/doesn't exist yet.
C9 Squeeky 2 votesThey have the technology to put that language in a filter system to make it show up as **** or just nothing at all.
Also, I'm sure the technology exists to detect feeding when compared to other players in your MMR or elo. It's just common sense
thenorthisonfire1 votesThey have the technology to put that language in a filter system to make it show up as **** or just nothing at all.
Also, I'm sure the technology exists to detect feeding when compared to other players in your MMR or elo. It's just common sense
It's not common sense, but there are measures that are strongly predictive.
ModWulf Helhammer6 votesLanguage detection is an incredibly easy system to make. It's literally google search.
Making an automated feeder detection system that can catch genuine inters and trolls, and has a nigh nonexistent false positive rate is leagues more difficult.
If you think it's so easy, share your idea with Riot. I can guarantee you that if you have a simple solution for this, they would love to hear it.
C9 Squeeky 1 votesIf WE can detect a feeder, surely they can design programs and algorithms to look for those signs.
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesan automated feeder detection system
You aren't automated.
C9 Squeeky 1 votesBut we know what they look like based on the frequency of deaths, what items they buy (point of reference to common builds & common off-builds), when a non-support player keeps following another player, you don't think systems have the capability to detect that? They can detect every single input (which is how they have Chronobreak) and compare it to your previous games as well as players your MMR that play that champion and/or role.
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesWhat we have is basic knowledge and more...undefined rules for it.
If someone sells all their items to buy tears, were they inting? Or did they do it at the very end of the game as the enemy was taking the nexus, when the game was already over?
common off-builds
What. There is no such thing as a common uncommon build. And you can't punish someone just for building odd items. They could be new. It could be something they just found that works for whatever reason. It could be a situational build that works really well for that one game.
If it's so theoretically easy, then do it. Show even an example. You don't even have to code it. Just show an example of how you'd think it'd work to me.
C9 Squeeky 1 votesEvery champion has a recommended items page, new players have to put effort to go off-build unless the "new" player isn't new at all and is instead a smurf that got banned on their main.
If you're a jungler and took smite but started with Ancient Coin, that isn't trolling or griefing?
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesIf you're a jungler and took smite but started with Ancient Coin, that isn't trolling or griefing?
Except that's too easy to circumvent. And rarely ever happens.
C9 Squeeky 2 votesIt does happen though. I can click mute button if I don't want someone to chat/ping, but I can't stop someone from going troll or INTing, and Riot needs better tools (and consequences) for wasting teammates' time, and LP if its Ranked.
DuskDaUmbreon3 votesOkay. And your genius move is circumvented by the fact that that's stupidly easy to get around if you're a troll.
C9 Squeeky 1 votesmy point exactly. Wait, are you actually defending trolls?
DuskDaUmbreon3 votes???
Where did you get that?
Karunamon3 votes"Signs" maybe, but conclusive detection? Not a chance. That's a problem that would be hard even for AI.
ZephyrDrake4 votesThey have the technology to put that language in a filter system to make it show up as **** or just nothing at all.
Also, I'm sure the technology exists to detect feeding when compared to other players in your MMR or elo. It's just common sense
yes because people bypassing filters is such a rare thing... the very first thing that people do if a filter is in place is look for ways to bypass it. A simple filter isn't going to stop anyone that wants to use said type of language.
There might be something but it would require a ton of data from the bot for it to even function. People also play very differently and some will die more than others depending on the type of champions they play. No matter what type of automated system you have in place nobody is going to get hit with intentional feeding for feeding a game or two (unless it's so obvious that even a blind monkey could see it). It also doesn't help that people report others of feeding while they were having a bad game (or just because their KDA isn't the greatest) making it a lot harder for an automated system to even function the way it is supposed to.
If people actually stopped reporting everyone for "intentional feeding" just because someone went 2/6/5 or something similar, or because they got caught out of position then maybe you would see the automated system actually carry out punishments to intentionally feeders more easily than it currently does
thenorthisonfire3 votesAFKs are handled by Leaverbuster. Feeders are harder to detect unless someone says "I'm feeding." There's no way to properly and adequately differentiate between someone having a really bad game and feeding, unless you can see that they're trucking it down mid all game. Even then, you'd probably need to submit a support ticket for a manual evaluation of that person.
People using racist/homophobic language, or generally flaming in chat is super easy to detect by an automated system. Behaviors, not so much, since the AI required to do such is probably more expensive/doesn't exist yet.
Why is that difficult? Easy to detect the joint (a) purchasing of mobility boots, (b) sudden increase in time-to-death, (c) sudden sale of all items, and (d) rapid change in gold per minute. From that sample, you then do manual review if needed.
Pika Fox3 votesSwearing wont get you banned. Insults, negative attitudes, threats to life or property (which are illegal and yes you can have the authorities contacted for this and riot will comply), and various slurs will.
Also, its easy to check a chat log to prove something. Its clear cut and not deniable. This can even be automated.
Feeders arent reportable, intentionally feeding is. Big difference, and why its hard to prove.
Also, AFKs are automatically handled by a system that will punish you. Already solved.
HalcyonDweller3 votesRiot catches and punishes people for in-game behaviors more slowly than for chat behaviors. This is because they review those cases manually and are more careful not to falsely ban an innocent player.
Chat offenses are easy to catch by comparison. They can simply use a chat parser to look for patterns of language that are known to be toxic.
It's not that they do nothing. Rather, they simply handle the two types of misbehavior with systems that have different efficiencies. Trolls are still caught, it just takes longer.
here's my suggestion:
It may be tempting to cuss a troll out, but if you show them your anger then you are letting them win. They want that attention, they want to see evidence of your suffering at their hands. If you instead keep quiet, or better yet participate in chat but never address them or acknowledge them, then you will instead drive the troll to new heights of frustration. Try it, it's fun! And the best part is you're not doing anything wrong so you can't get in trouble for it.
thenorthisonfire1 votesBecause if they addressed the problem in a substantial way they would lose money.
HalcyonDweller3 votesProof please?
PickingBoogers1 voteskk what I learned its so easy to get banned for swearing and if u feed I gotta do a whole progress of writing an report but swearing at other people is just 1 button away. cool thanks.