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Everyone is a god compared to me.

CoconutAligators··3 votes·861 views

So back in season 4 I played for the first time trying to get good at the game. Basically I learned to cs trade, and since nobody below gold 3 knew how to cs trade I went to gold 1 in a few weeks. I stopped playing back then in favor of starcraft 2.

Now I've been back for maybe 3-4 weeks of playing. Bronze players cs trade me every cs I take, supports harass constantly, bronze silver gold, they all have perfect cs. I feel like I need to be what used to be platinum in season 4, just to remain silver. I suck, I'm horrible. I don't know what to do, I get WRECKED every game.

I used to have fun playing league now it's just not fun any more. No matter how hard i try I can't improve. I'm watching all these videos and studying the game and trying so hard to learn and it's doing absolutely nothing. Every game my team gets wrecked and I can't carry because I'm so trash.

I love this game but I feel like I might as well quit and never play again if I'm going to be forever bad. I'm a competitive person and if I can't even compete whats the point? There is no way to get help in the game nobody is willing to help a person I even went to different sub reddits where free help is offered and nobody helps.

My record in ranked is like 9 wins 28 losses. How horrible is that? I don't know. I really want to get good but every thing I learn and try to implement is just not making a difference whatsoever in my game play. There's probably some simple solution but I'll never know it.

28 Comments

KillerKell3 votes

Remember that time you liked that girl. So you tried hard? You followed her everywhere so she would notice you, and know that you noticed her. You spoke to her every time you saw her, even if she was already engaged in a conversation with a group. You stood outside her window so she would feel safe that no one would break in and harm her.

You went to prison for that.

Morale of the story... don't try THAT hard.

CoconutAligators1 votes

Yea that prison sentence was hard times >.< Good point =D

KillerKell3 votes

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Yea that prison sentence was hard times >.< Good point =D

Thanks for taking the joke well. :D

I'm just saying, sometimes one can put to much pressure on themselves, which causes Over-Stress... which can lead to a downward spiral.

"Oh crap, I miss that CS... he's got to be ahead of me, frak, missed that one trying to figure out how many ahead of me he... frak, missed another... I wonder how many he's ahead now..."

It becomes self-fulfilling.

You're over loading yourself, then trying to play. Pro Players in any Sport have to learn how to Relax. Those of us that come from Sports Backgrounds, like myself, learn this early on from GOOD Coaches. Some just push and push and burn you out or you 'learn' to be wound up (Kobe Bryant is an example of Extreme Pressure... he NEVER looked like he was having fun on a Court until this last Season when he had decided to Retire... then he was getting crushed by 40 and smiling. Very few can do either of those.) and melt under pressure.

You've got to learn to relax, take a breath... and play the game.

PLAY the game.

Don't formulate the game, or hypothesize the game, or mind experiment the game. It's a game. Play it.

Once you can get back to just playing, and enjoying the act of playing, start layering that knowledge on. Knowledge is good, but if you are thinking, you aren't playing. The idea is to get so used to something you do it off instinct... not because you broke out an abacus and it tells you "Flash towards Brush, then QW". Because by then, you are to late to flash, ate the Stun, and are dead.

Stop trying to react, start letting go and flow.

Hope it helps.

CoconutAligators1 votes

Yea I'm going to try and just "let it go" after I take a break. Just gonna play normals and "just play" and see how it goes! Thanks =D

GGXJ92 votes

Play easy champions and work on the basics and you will be diamond. No joke. Everyone actually just sucks as much as you probably na is really bad. As long as you can perfect the basics you actually cant lose games. Just play like jungle malphite or ww or some shit free wins.

CoconutAligators1 votes

I have been trying to implement this approach because I watched some coaching videos from LastShadow and other people. So I started to play annie mid cuz she is simple. I get fed as hell every game which is fun but still don't carry much =( Do you think ADC is a bad choice? I have been maining it, because in S4 when I climbed, I literally carried the whole way with a sick record. Carried 4v5's, carried teams that fed hella hard. Now stuff like that is nothing but a distant memory. Maybe adc is just too hard for me now.

I'm a really bad jungler (was an even worse mid but annie is awesome), but I'll try those champs out, maybe I will have similar results to my annie, which has been quite nice tbh. Thanks for the tip.

GGXJ91 votes

I guess it depends on what you like but it is harder to actually carry as adc in low elo and roles such as top/mid are better. As for annie you probably didnt play enough games on her. Regardless of win or lose if you play 50 annie games you will most likely be better and have a better win rate than most champs. If not the champ doesnt really fit your style or you are not trying to learn along with playing aka doing the wrong things thinking they are right. Jungle is all about map awareness and decision making/efficiency.

To carry as annie I had like a 70% win rate in diamond with her. All I did was solo kill my lane/jungle and just roam every time my ult was up. Its so easy to get picks with flash tibbers when you are fed its actually just hard as hell to NOT get obj when you can just insta kill people. Just work on damage foresight and positioning. As someone like annie I always patiently wait for someone to miss position so I can just flash ult and kill the entire team. Ive carried golds in ranked 5's vs diamond playing annie because I could get really fed in lane/ just by playing smart without dying and could get atleast 3 people in my tibers ult every time so they would just melt and no matter how bad my team was they could just follow up enough for the easy clean up.

CoconutAligators1 votes

Also, would you consider Hecarim to be a simple jungler? I was playing him a little bit, but not sure if he would be considered "simple" like ww or malphite is lol. Also, I'm not even sure what to focus on as the "basics" tbh =(

GGXJ91 votes

I think hec is like a medium jungler good for like plat up since when you go in with hecarim in fights you are almost always forced to go in and potentially die if you dont pick the right targets. Requires alot of foresight esp if you go damage instead of tanky unlike someone like ww or malphite where you know okay I press R when its up people die I win. Hec is more like this ult and engage could win or lose us the game.

And the basics are any other basics from sports/anything really. Farming,map awareness,trading,foresight,damage foresight,trading,warding. Just super simple things most players overlook when trying to improve. You would be surprised how many people in bronze/silver hell even plat that get like 80 cs at 15-20 min and its just abyssal god awful farming. I won games when I was a mid because I could farm extremely good have perfect cs most games while getting kills and objectives efficiently. In jungle its by being extremely map aware and knowing what I need to do 30 seconds in advance.

FantasySniper2 votes

You can try the CS Training Regime:

http://i.imgur.com/orWUCKH.png

I also recommend playing a shit ton of ARAM if you don't feel like committing the energy.

EDIT: Since you main ADC, I recommend learning Miss Fortune, Jhin, or Jinx. They may be mostly immobile, but they are the best at teamfights and comebacks. Twitch has also come out of hiding, but he probably won't be strong for much longer.

CoconutAligators1 votes

Thanks a lot I'll definitely do this!

Chroknow1 votes

Idk what you are talking about tbh. Bronze, silver, and gold players, even high diamond players do not have perfect cs. The lower ones are not even close.

CoconutAligators1 votes

You're right that not all of them have perfect cs. But it's very close. 44 cs in botlane by 5:10 is absolutely perfect, and it's pretty common that they are within 10 cs of that. Before I stopped playing, gold and below players were always waay off on cs. Now they are far closer to perfect than they used to be.

Beldair1 votes

Don't try so hard....doing research is fine but in the end, your playing style is unique to you.

CoconutAligators1 votes

Maybe I should just try and forget about everything and just play my own way? I guess that sounds like a good way to take a break from tryharding so much too.

Beldair1 votes

I do little research except the occassional who counters who....I play Support but I do it my own way.... Is it the best way for everyone...nope... But it's best for me and how i tend to play.

For instance, most squishy supports stay behind the adc to try to help from a safe distance...instead of doing that, i stay in front of my adc so that i take the brunt of any engage and my adc can either pick up an easy double or can escape while i keep then busy.

Tahyana1 votes

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Maybe I should just try and forget about everything and just play my own way? I guess that sounds like a good way to take a break from tryharding so much too.

According to one of the videos I followed, you have to practice cs in custom. First just last hitting minions with no champ and then add the champ. it's helped me tons. I used to suck with cs, but now I can see a steady improvement. I also play customs for practice against friends to get used to playing against others.

BluePolarizer1 votes

It's due to smurfs and premades. Dynamic queue encourages smurfing, especially in large groups. You might have golds and plats in "bronze" or "silver" games trying to carry their friends.

CoconutAligators1 votes

If it's true...I'm getting a ton of smurfs! lol. I suppose I wouldn't be upset if I knew they were smurfs. Most of my games the enemy team is just super fed. But then again if I was better should be able to carry my team and I never do. But damn it's been crazy regardless.

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

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It's due to smurfs and premades. Dynamic queue encourages smurfing, especially in large groups. You might have golds and plats in "bronze" or "silver" games trying to carry their friends.

Have you considered that he might just be shit at the game?

Not trying to be mean to the guy, but if he has a record of 9/28 in ranked then the problem isn't dynamic queue.

BluePolarizer1 votes

if he is season 4 gold, how bad can he be? the biggest differences between season 4 and now is that there's more insanely OP champs now and there's dynamic queue now.

Shadowatom1 votes

You were good in season 4 and you're frustrated that everyone got better and as a result you're effectively at the bottom because you fell behind. Trust me, as someone who had to stop playing just before the start of season 1 and coming back this season, I know the feeling (sort of, I was shit before I stopped playing tbh). You gotta give yourself time though, and forgive yourself for your mistakes. Don't push yourself so hard that you're giving up because you don't get better quickly, a lot has changed from 4-6, so you're gonna have to take it one step at a time and learn how everything works little by little. Can you still CS well? If not, then practice it again. If so, then something else is giving you problems and you need to find out what before you can get better. Learning and implementing it right away is one thing, but repeated practice until it becomes natural is another.

Angry Monster1 votes

I'm a competitive person

after that you should of said

and when i see a challenge i run from it and cry.

Cause that is all you are doing. You got lucking season 4 and placed high and probably got carried. Luck cases like that happen all the time. BEing able to repeat your preformance and earn your position is what matters.

You are a casual and should stay out of rank play.

CoconutAligators1 votes

Actually I got placed silver 4 and legit carried multiple 4v5's, many teams which were feeding hardcore. I played adc with a crazy record like 25-5 until I hit gold 1 and lost many games trying to get into platinum. It was really awesome.

I don't know why you are so upset by my post that you want to be insulting. But people tend to reflect themselves upon others especially online so I'll just take this comment as a problem with you and not me. I hope you achieve happiness in life though, good luck to you.

Angry Monster1 votes

I don't know why you are so upset by my post

cause you do not want to see the truth about your self. i am not the person talking about running away cause they are being proved that they are not as good as they thought they would be.

I have problems with people like you. You whine, cry and say "woe is me" when you fail. Instead of learning from your failures you just want to quit and run away. Instead of embracing the challenger you cry. You not enjoying the game that one thing. Quitting cause you are not measuring up to some personal ideal is sickening. Also when you were supposedly so good in season 4 you left cause you thought you were so pro. What a joke it, it sad that people fall for shit like this post .

I am not the type person to say "well here is a trophy for not being good enough".

CoconutAligators1 votes

Well I haven't been having fun. I haven't had fun for like a week playing league, it's been really REALLY shitty, trying to not lose every single game. My past 50 games I only won like 8...that's not very fun. It's beyond a challenge, it's like some kind of shitty shit storm of utter misery trying to play for the past week. It's been horrible and it's driven me fucking crazy. I suppose if you lost 40 out of 50 games you would jump out of bed like peewee herman and exclaim "yes! Another wonderful day of league of legends is ahead!"

I didn't leave league because I was "so good." I left league to play Starcraft 2. I was master league and I was trying to get to high master and potentially grand master at the time and didn't have time to play league.

I made this post not to complain, but in a last ditch effort in hopes that people would offer some kind of advice that would lift my spirits, or something that would actually help me. And so far they have. But while everyone else was helpful, you are the one guy who freaks out and gets upset. That really just tells me what kind of person you are tbh.

Angry Monster1 votes

right there

trying to not lose every single game

you only want to win. You are not about getting better, you just assume that you should have X. you probably never really enjoyed your self. The game was easy and meaningless to you.

I play for the challenge and to prove my mettle every time. I fail 50% of the time but i get up and do it again cause it is a challenge. I want the challenge, without it the game is boring. I am never going to be prefect or the best but i will improve and learn now things. This game is about the challenge at the end of the day.

go play a PVE game. Its more your pace and fits your attitude. Not every person wants to push themselves and league is not for those kind of people.

Swiftstrike41 votes

When you were playing it may have been easier to climb perhaps. The player base has grown since then and there are 2 seasons of patches that you missed that did adjust the game, along with the creation of new items.

I don't know how much different the game was then, but I would say even from season 5 to 6 the game has change quite a bit in terms of the masteries, ADCs, and juggernauts.

The game probably just evolved a lot while you were not playing. I didn't start playing until the middle of season five, but I recognize noticeable changes since a year ago.

Also, I think the skill gap among players is not as pronounced. The game has been out for awhile, and other players who play regularly have likely improved if they continued to play. It is also easier to watch the pros or really good streamers to gain advice and/or tips to improve gameplay (twitch has transformed how players can learn the game).

You could also be rusty from not playing. A few of my friends take month long breaks from this game and they are terrible for a few weeks when they return.

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