Players without a mastery for a champion shouldnt be able to play that champion in a ranked match.

I guess I could see this, but that would make team comping extremely difficult in some cases. I mean, what if your jungler only has mastery in two jungle champs and both of them get banned? Now they can't play another jungle champ even if they have technically unlocked them because no mastery.

And, even if you want to scold "one/two tricks," this would probably also happen frequently in cases of fill for roles the player doesn't usually play.

I don't know, mastery 4 on 20 champions is a bit much. plus, me having mastery in general on any champion doesn't make me any better at it.

ya, this would make autofill get ugly fast, as well as I have had some rounds when I have gone a role and 5 of the bans were all in that role and you have to play something you are not as strong in.

"Hey first pick, grab me Kai'sa?" "Can't, not enough mastery"

This would also serve to make it easier to spot smurfs. They would have to play more norms and the system would be able to know what they are before they can get I to ranked with 20 or more champs that now have a mastery.

People trade picks based on pick priority. First pick being unable toreserve a highly wanted champ without mastery would hurt you more.

You lose LP for afks because it would be abusable otherwise. Stop bringing this up, its not going to change.

There are reasons for both of those issues.

Restricting champion picks makes champ trades much more difficult. Either you would only be able to trade champions that you can play yourself, or champion select would get a lot more complicated to allow and enforce trading of non-playable champions.

And players could abuse the LP loss reduction upon AFK/Disconnect. The usual example is that a losing team could bully one person into leaving, just so the rest of the team could save some LP. Or a duo boosting partner could leave willingly to save some of his partner's LP.

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In almost every match I get players first timing a new champion in ranked. Players should have a roster of champions that they practice in norms and get a mastery with, THEN they can play them in ranked. Also, when someone rage quits, afk's, or is lagging too much, why do we have to suffer a full LP loss when it should at least be half the normal amount. What kind of ranked system is this with absolutely no requirements to play in, besides getting your account to 30.. UPVOTE IF YOU AGREE.

I like the idea. But i dont know how well it would work. Like another poster said, somebody could have their mastery champs banned and be out of luck. Then you have someone picking a champ they do have mastery with, that doesnt necessarily fit into the role they wanted because they have no other choice.

However, its super frustrating when i see a no mastery asshole vayne on the loading screen in ranked. Personally i only play my best champs in ranked. Ranked isnt a place for fun, its a place to win. My best champs are my best champs because theyre the ones i play all the time, any champ i play in ranked has at least mastery 5. I do this because i intend to win, and when pleople play champs they know inside and out, it improves game quality for the entire team.

Yes everyone has to start somewhere, and when they start ranked as a fresh lvl 30 they may or may not really "know" their champs or have high mastery and thats okay. Thats what lower ranks are for. But once you hit silver, youve had ample time to become proficient with your mains.

I feel like its a players personal responsibility to play their best champs in ranked. Not everyone sees it that way though. Come prepared, come to win. If you dont, youre screwing your ranked team.

Just do what dota does and rank the champions through complexity and resitrict higher complexity champions from being playes in ranked until you play a couple games on them

How many people are going to say, "couldn't swap picks" as a reason not to do this?

The solution is simple. Swap pick order instead of swapping picks.

(I like your suggestion btw, in case that wasn't clear)

Blizzard does this for Heroes of the Storm where you need 14 heroes at level 5 to even be able to queue for ranked games, I'm not sure about being able to play them as the only ones I play are warriors and they are all well past level 5

Don't try to use logic with Riot. You should be mastery 4 with a champ and have a certain number of champs at mastery 4 before being allowed to step into ranked. Smite does it this way in a sense. Not exactly but working within LoL this should be a thing. Riot doesn't use common sense though.

I'm with you on this one. Make it so you need 20 champs on lvl 5 mastery, and if champ trading will be a problem, replace it with role swapping, simple as that.

I have a ton of chaps at level 5 which I mostly got from playing them in ARAM and weekend rotation game modes. Played my first ranked games recently and was placed in Silver 3. Not sure I am going to bother trying to climb further as I find it a bit stressful and not that fun. Anyway my point is that even though I do feel like I know how to play most of those champs reasonably well it doesn't mean I am going to do well in ranked with them. (or more importantly be able to outplay my lane opponent).

Champion levels are a crappy method to determine if you should be able to play ranked with a champ. It just means you have played that champ a lot. It doesn't mean you play them well.

I agree, usually in my ranked games I will get at least one without a mastery and 1 game played with that champion overall or none. It worries me cause usually they dont perform well since they didnt really play the champion they picked.

I disagree because some people have multiple accounts and when they practice one champ on one account then jump to the other it wouldnt make sense to not let them do that.

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In almost every match I get players first timing a new champion in ranked. Players should have a roster of champions that they practice in norms and get a mastery with, THEN they can play them in ranked. Also, when someone rage quits, afk's, or is lagging too much, why do we have to suffer a full LP loss when it should at least be half the normal amount. What kind of ranked system is this with absolutely no requirements to play in, besides getting your account to 30.. UPVOTE IF YOU AGREE.

okish idea, no afterthought about what that will do to the ban/pick phase

So ive been playing league since around season 1, and have played/mained a pretty large part of the rooster to some extent. Should I not be allowed to play J4, Nocturne and many more just because I played them before mastery was released?

As a plus it might add on as more reason to not boost, or smurf. Always a plus.