New Girl looking for pvp and champ help!

mycatbeatboxes·3/4/2015, 4:36:03 AM·7 votes·4,043 views

I started playing LoL a few months ago with my fiancee. He caught on right away, I however am having a super hard time! I will try to explain my two problems as clear as possible. Sorry in advance if it doesn't make sense!!

Problem one- i understand the basics of using a champion. I for the most part understand what each ability does on the champ im playing, however i feel i am missing important things! I cant ever figure out the real strategy of that specific champ. Champs like Ashe i can do but when i look into better ranked champs it seems i have no idea what i should be doing. I feel like im button mashing most of the game!

Problem 2- I am very successful in bot games, but when i try PvP i feel like i fail miserably. Bot games are of course a great way to practice but it really didn't prepare me for a lot of the things I experienced in PvP. For one,m, people playing bots often dont care about rules. I try to play as if it were a pvp match but so much is either high levels playing so they can go 60/0, which means they end up getting all the kills and carrying the game without needing any help. Other times its people goofing off saying they want to have 3 mid and one top and one bot. Its so frustrating! Bot also doesnt prepair me for the big team fights or the need for allies to be moving lanes to assist. I know PvP is the only way to get better at PvP but i really hate to be the new girl bring the team down.

ANY ADVICE?!?!?!?! PLEASE SAVE ME!

56 Comments

McAllister3/4/2015, 4:56:43 AM4 votes

First, bot games are great for three things: they let you get the hang of a champion's mechanics, they let you learn to jungle a champion, and they let you get that First Win of the Day bonus out of the way. You will not learn to be a great Varus, Vi, Karthus or Xerath without mastering their Q: it's important to try out Skarner Jungle a few times to see how to do it best: FWoD is great IP. Otherwise, these games don't teach you too much, so I'd advise against relying on them.

Second, what level are you? This will help us determine where you're at. You may provide your fiance's level, so we can analyze the difference. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's caught on right away because he's got a longer background in playing similar games, but of course that's a baseless assumption, so explain if you'd like.

Third, if you have questions about a specific champion's role and how they fill that role differently than other champions, we'll be happy to explain. For example, Ashe is among the lowest DPS in the ADC role, but her utility is among the best. I'll explain that in more detail if you like.

Fourth, it's best to play with 4 people you already know. I'm glad you're playing with your fiance, but if either of you have other friends who play the game, practicing as a group of 5 is ideal to make sure you know that the people in the game are familiar with your skill level, supportive, and won't accuse you of dragging them down. Another asset is a voice program that lets you communicate with the friends you're playing with via headset. If you've got a headset but you don't have many friends who play, I might be able to introduce you to some amiable people I've been happily playing with for months.

Finally, persist. There are strategic skills in the game that cannot be taught. Eventually, the laning phase ends: how do you know it's over, and where do you go from there? When do you try to take objectives like inner towers, dragons or inhibitors? Where do you put wards, and when you don't have enough ward coverage, how do you know when to walk back to a safer area? The more games you play, the more instincts you'll develop. I know this seems like you're not learning anything, but keep an eye on the minimap (and your teammates' pings, when they ping): there will come a day when you realize your Spider-Sense is telling you that the mid-laner is about to gank your lane, and you need to retreat. The best way to develop these skills is to use the death timer and post-game screen as opportunities to think "why did that happen the way it did?" I know that answers like "the matchmaking gods have put feeble-minded imbeciles on my team" or "the wrath of my opponents was unstoppable like a tsunami" will spring to mind, but there are usually more useful explanations to be found. Acknowledge the frustration, push it to the side, and analyze. This is another area where a more experienced teammate can help to shed light.

There's my advice! If that doesn't save you, tell me more about the problems you're facing and I'll try again.

Angry Monster3/4/2015, 10:39:06 AM4 votes

your level 7. Play bots till level 10/15 unless you can roll advance bots. Til around level 10-15 your going to be playing against smurfs. IF your new to the MOBA genre i advise staying away from PVP. I would just try different champs and learn what they do.

You did not mention what role you prefer, You say you understand Ashe but are you an ADC player? What are your goals and desired roles. I am going to go on a limb and say that you really do not understand the basics of that many champs. A lot of them have different play patterns and thinking that just auto and trading is the basics is wrong. Bots unfortunately do not teach good laning practices.

I would not listen to Umbral light if i were you. His runes (4) pages are questionable at best. He may know his stuff but his pages are telling another story. Examples of his questionable setups, 1 His time dead quint mixed with PEN and AS. (majorly inefficient) 2 Per level AD reds (not efficient 80% of runes should be flat not scaling. Scaling power should come from items) 3 AR blus (not efficient blus normally are ability related going out side of that is for specific reasons and situations) All that is what is wrong with just his first page.

I took a look at your match history and you have to be playing against starter bots. A lot of your builds will never work in a real game. You seem to build what ever you want with out understand what really is going on with items.

I am not sure how serious you want to be at this game.(i dont know you). I can help if you really want to improve. I have been playing since season 2 (gold). I also have helped newer players before. If you want some higher level help, I am willing to help.

ADD me if you want to talk.

Delphinium3/4/2015, 5:03:34 PM2 votes

Try ARAM. Watch pros play in Twitch TV. Find champion builds on Google.

That's what I did, caus I suck at summoner's rift PVP.

RamboDash153/4/2015, 4:57:47 AM2 votes

To learn some stuff you could look up youtube players, (helped me a ton). One I think would be good to help learn things as well as get a laugh or two would be Aigey with his Objectives Over Kills playlist.

If you're new it takes a while to learn a champ. I've been playing for almost three years now and I'd say I've only mastered about 5 champs. My brother is in the same spot as you and it is natural to not do too well until you get the hang of it. Some of the in-depth guides on mobafire and lolking can help you learn a champion before jumping into a game, too.

The biggest advice I can give you, however, is to not play bots. You can defeat bots very easily and therefore do not help you learn more besides the absolute basics of a champion.

I hope this helps. Gl, hf and see you on the rift.

LilMsCantBeWrong3/4/2015, 6:27:52 AM1 votes

I started playing with my husband a few weeks ago, am also at level 7. If you want to que up and suck together at PvP we can at least have each other's back :). I get (mostly) the mechanics but the bot matches don't really give you an idea of team play at all. Right now I'm maining with Shyvana mostly because it's who I got used to first.

I'm also plagued with a tight schedule and haven't been able to play much the last few days.

Stephenizgod3/4/2015, 6:52:43 AM1 votes

Its cool that you are asking the community to get better instead of just assuming League sucks, it happens more often then you think lol.

OK! So first i want to say that, while there are "top-tier" champions, it doesnt mean any champion you play is bad. So you said you can do Ashe but you cant do "higher ranked" champions? Thats not a big deal, Ashe is a really good champion for newer players and a really strong champion overall no matter your skill level. She may not have late game Vayne status power (if you dont know what i mean thats ok lol) but she is a solid champion and quite fun.

Alright so here is what you can learn from Bot games, try to get a lane by yourself or play with a partner who will let you practice last hitting. This is key to winning lane or just doing good, last hitting is everything. When i say last hitting i mean just killing the minions in general, later you will want to practice only hitting them at the last possible second before they die. This is called Farming btw, so if someone says "Just Farm" they mean "Go kill Minions". You can also practice trading with an opponent, which is when you attack them once or twice then back off. So these are things you can learn in a Bot game even with those 60/0 pros or the duo mid trolls.

As for PvP, it really helps to play with a friend and to just mute everyone else. Go into your preferred lane and try out what you have been practicing with the last hitting and the poking your enemy. If the enemy is good you probably wont win lane but that is ok, this is a huge thing to learn during your first PvP matches try to die as little as possible. Saying this sounds like a joke but its not, im serious you really want to be actively trying not to die. When you get better this will become natural and you will begin to try to kill your lane opponent while keeping the "do not die" in the back of your mind always ready to take over when you get into trouble. Something you also need to learn that is extremely important is Warding. At lower levels its not much of a big deal but you want to learn it as soon as possible. Great places to Ward are the River, the bushes in lane, inside the jungle in bushes or next to the monsters, and next to Baron and Dragon. Try to get good at warding bushes before team-fights or before you walk into them, if you can learn this early on then you will be a pro at it by the time you reach level 30. Wards win games.

Strategy on champions is something individual to those types of champions, like Ashe is a Marksmen so her strategy is different then Garen who is a Fighter. Even inside the same types there is different strategy Ashe and Lucian both have different play-styles despite both being Marksmen. If you want to learn a specific champions strategy i suggest doing one of two things 1) Look up a ton of guides for them or 2) Just play them and learn as you go what works and what doesnt work. I suggest using guides at first, once you played enough games you can pretty much guess how to play a champion, but it depends on how you learn best.

Im sorry i cant give too much help or info because its hard to shove it all into one comment. Just one thing to note, this is a game and meant to be enjoyed, PvP isnt that hard once you get over the "Omg i dont want to let my teammates down" anxiety lol. Just watch other players, ask questions if people are being friendly, and practice Farming and Warding.

Drogeist3/4/2015, 9:22:22 AM1 votes

Lots of great advice here already. I'll second the idea of picking one or two champions you're confident you want to learn and that are appropriate for your skill level/role you want to play and watch videos on youtube or anywhere you can find them to learn how to farm minions, how and when to do your combos, what items to buy (in general), and how to team fight. If you can't find a good video, just go to LolKing and watch a replay of a game with the champion you're interested in. Find a few games where the champ does well, and see what they did right, and try and replicate it when you play. The good thing about this method is that you can see exactly what runes and masteries everyone in the game is using! I learned some interesting ganking routes for jungling by doing this. But I wouldn't recommend jungling for a beginner player, unless you really want to learn.

I do think custom bot games are good if you're just playing solo or duo and you pick 5 enemy bots (and 0-2 friendly bots). Try and pick bots that are hard to lane against or that naturally counter your champion. Picking bots with lots of dmg and cc is pretty annoying and can make you think twice about your positioning, especially if you're trying to master someone squishy. Depending what lane you want, you can try doing 1v2 and see how well you farm. Set a high farm goal and then try and beat it (e.g. 100 at 10-12 minutes). Even if you don't beat your goal, get in the habit of noting what your farm was at certain times (10, 15, 20 minutes, etc.) and then see if you can do better next time. You can also try farming either without using abilities or with very minimal use of abilities to try and conserve mana and still get your farm while staying safe. This is especially important for many mid champions because it means that in a real game you will have plenty of mana if you ever receive a gank from your jungler, and/or you can spend some mana harassing (or missing a skill shot) without crippling your cs.

Good luck!

Mellori3/4/2015, 10:21:08 AM1 votes

I'm not very good at explaining tips and things; I tend to forget key points and don't say what I'm trying to say in a way that makes sense more often than not. However, everyone here has done a good job at it, the information here so far looks great.

What I can do though, is play some games with you. watch how you play and give you tips from there based on what I see. I'm also willing to answer questions, help you out on learning what's what with runes, masteries, matchups, etc. I've got a few other under-30's that I teach the basics to and they say it's helped a lot. Maybe it'll help you too, if you're interested.

Shogunai3/4/2015, 4:41:07 PM1 votes

One thing about League, this game offers a many different play styles which appeals differently amongst players. Myself for example before I finally settled in a style I would toggle back an forth between different champions never quite getting the hang of what the champions have to offer.

My advice to you, figure out what your style is early, because that is what going to really carry you deeper into the game. I was an hardcore support player, nothing for filled my game experience than helping others get kills. I eventually realized that no matter how many games I played with that role something was missing. One of my strengths is vision control and knowing where everyone is on the map. So I've basically migrated to jungle.

After you have found your style you can then select your champion that fits your style then work things out from there. In my experience no one can really help you figure out what your style is, that is something you'll have to figure out yourself however, If you need any help along the way, Add me in game, Ill assist you in anyway I can. I'm a casual player myself so I'm not online every second of the day, however when I started I found a friend online that has really showed me the ropes an has really helped my own gameplay. There are certain strategies an approaches to this game that I have find vital in this game. Once you've gotten those down your pvp experience will evolve an you'll take it by storm.

Poptart Evelynn3/4/2015, 4:43:54 PM1 votes

You're going to need someone very skilled to show you the mechanics and idea behind the champions and trades in order to catch up. Just reading some of these wont do too much for you.

Best tip I can offer is when in combat situations whether it be in real life or in a game. You have to play it like chess. It's strategy based. You have to know that if you do A what your opponent will do in return and what can you do when your opponent does B. Experience will get you the knowledge of this but you will have to play a lot of PvP.

IMO once you get the basis of what all the champs do go straight to PvP. Bots is a handicap and will hold you back. It's best to get beat by good players and learn from it. Never blame "X champ is Op" always look back and think "what did I do that got me killed?"

C9 Suh Dude3/4/2015, 5:00:55 PM1 votes

We have all been there. I was like 0-18-7 when I started PvP but when I played Co-Op vs AI I demolished because we were versing bots not people. So what I did was I would play three games of PvP no matter how miserable they were and then I would play one game of Co-Op to bring me up onto my feet. So the key is play mostly PvP and play a little Co-Op. Now in PvP, my last game I was 20-0-6 with Ahri. Which also depends. You have to be good with the champions and everyone has a different playstyle and lane. Top lane is when you basically stay in lane until the laning phase is over. That is when you start to help. Jungler is when you are in the jungle killing those beasts for buffs. Jungler ganks all the time. Mid lane is supposed to be the second carry after the ADC. When you are mid lane if you are far ahead enough of your opponent then you start to gank. ADC is when you build full Attack Damage and you want your ADC to get fed (all of the kills, but don't let them kill steal though). Support just sets up the kills for everyone else. Then the champions is up to you. If you would rather go up and start hurting everyone I would recommend you to ADC. But if you want to stay safe and still get kills then you would be a mage. But if you like to support others be support. Lastly, if you want to tank turrets and be the turret diver I would recommend tanks. One more actually, if you want to be sneaky and annoying and basically a killer of all be an assassin. If you need anymore help just comment on this comment.

mycatbeatboxes3/4/2015, 6:59:10 PM1 votes

I just want to say thank you to everyone! Everyone that commented wanted to help and i seriously really appreciate that! Nobody was rude to me or thought i was stupid ( which i expected a few comments to be haha ). You all took so much time and gave honest and helpful advice! I am so fricking happy about that haha. Again thank you all, you are the reason i will not give up on this sometimes frustrating game! Im adding you all (dont feel obligated to accept) and again all i can say is thank you!

Orbv3/4/2015, 7:06:52 PM1 votes

My first two weeks I played with two of my roommates who had been playing for a few months. They used to politely tell me to stop dying, but I was dying A LOT. I just didn't get why I shouldn't be trying to fight someone with my champion, and why I wasn't doing as much. Personally the most important thing is to decide on what playstyle you like:

Do you like to aim abilities and hit enemies from a distance? Do you like to use your abilities as little as possible and stick to right clicking? Do you like to be the one who starts fights, or one who ends them, or one who simply tries to do both? Do you like helping your teammates be the star or do you like to be the star? How good are you at looking at the minimap and the summoner icons to the left? Those need to be looked at constantly.

Umbral Light3/4/2015, 4:54:28 AM1 votes

I know how you feel. I was in the same situation for a long time when I started playing League. One thing about PvP is most people have prepared Runes and Masteries making them even stronger. Another is the difference in combat experience using or going against other champs and players. And one more important factor is the item sets that you are each using since some champions use tanky items for health, armor and/or magic resist, others attack damage and some use ability power and then there are those who use a mix of the mentioned. The most important thing is how you play after getting used to champion that you are using. How to use their abilities/skills, when to attack or when to move and retreat. anticipating enemy movements. Cooldowns for abilities and warding. One other way to go practice PVP is to go into custom games against other people. You should try asking your fiancee to go 1v1 with you but if not I could help you out and practice 1v1 matches to get used to playing against others. If you want me to help you or give you advice then add me, I'll be sure to answer any questions you might have.

mvargus3/4/2015, 8:34:33 PM1 votes

I see you have many good answers, but I feel like adding. It helps that a friend of mine talked one of his friends into trying the game and I've wound up as his primary coach via teamspeak. He's also level 7, although he prefers top lane/jungler types.

So here are my comments

It takes time to get used to playing PvP. The bots are frighteningly predictable, while a human is always looking for a new angle. Also at your level you run into a lot of "smurf" accounts where someone who is already or has already had a ranked account is leveling a new one. These people tend to be very knowledgable about the matchups and will exploit weaknesses you weren't aware of. Expect to struggle in PvP until you are level 15 or so, even if you start playing now. (which I recommend because bots don't teach you much after the first 10 games or so.)
If you have a headset (mic and speakers) don't be afraid to find a teamspeak community. There are several and many have female members. Right now is a good time with the party bonus for IP. In the one I am part of there are always people looking to fill groups for games. The only danger for you would be that you might end up facing a level 30 player due to the matchmaking system. Still you'll have people coaching you live, which helps.
as others have said, once you decide to try a champ read up on them. Google is one way, but there are sites with lots of build and play guides. SoloMid and Mobafire are both ones with lots of information, although I know some people don't care for the guides.
no matter what you are told, remember that you will be playing. If you end up feeling that the advice you got doesn't fit your playstyle that is fine. Make your own build plans. Decide on runes (not until level 20) on your own. Pick masteries based on what you think works best for you. Guides and coaching helps, but if you find that you need one quint of MS and 2 of AD while playing Ashe to feel confident then go for it. Many of the people offering advice on builds have parsed the stats down to a ridiculous level looking for any advantage, but in summoner's rift the end result is still based on the play and decisions you make, not if you have 5 more points of AD at level 6.
I saw you like ranged champions. That pretty much leaves you with the marksmen class and then most of the mages (some are largely melee). Ashe is a good one to start as she's easy to play. From there it depends on what you like if you want to stay with the marksmen/ADC types.

Caitlyn Very safe early and can often win lane. Doesn't scale late game as well as some of the other marksmen

Corki He's a bit unusual due to his abilities, but I've seen a good Corki do well throughout the game

Graves He's considered one of the best ADCs at the moment. He's got the ability to throw down a lot of damage quickly.

Jinx She's fun, but she's not the safest to play as she has no escapes. Very popular though.

KogMaw He's great late in the game if he's been able to purchase items, but he's not good early in the game.

MissFortune She's interesting, but right now other champions outshine her.

Twitch He's as much an assassin as a marksman, but he's dangerous to fight against.

Vayne Solid late in the game, but I've seen quite a few bullied out of the lane early. She's difficult to master.

(I know I'm skipping a few, but I can't remember all the marksmen. I seem to mostly run into Caitlyn, Jinx, Vayne and Graves recently with a few Ashe players thrown in.)

Mages I can't suggest much as the one I play the most is Cassiopeia and I would never recommend her to a new player.

However, do take advantage of the 10 free champions each week. Take them into bot games or normals and try playing each one if you can. Or at least the 2-3 that interest you. You might find a few you'll want to get later, or find something that you can use on your regular champions. It gives you the advantage of testing out a champ without purchasing them. (It also can warn you about champs you don't want to get yet. I found last night that I'm terrible with Vayne.)

Laning mostly takes repetition and practice. One way to improve is to use custom games. Either have one beginner bot in the game as target practice or just have no enemy bot. Go in and concentrate on killing minions by one striking them once each. This is important in game as each minion you personally kill is worth gold, so the more minions you kill the faster you can purchase the items you need. You probably run around 3 per minute now. (you can see this by taking the minion's killed number and dividing by the length of the game - or some sides like LolKing and Na.op.gg will have it in their game stats they compile.) The top players in the game aim for 10 per minute or higher. (honestly better than 6 per minute is solid. I don't see many players above that at my level.)
learning when to leave the lane and roam is sadly a matter of experience. As you play more try to communicate with your teammates and pay attention. Usually about 15-18 minutes in and after the first towers come down teams start grouping up so that they can take objectives like inner turrets, dragon, etc. The timing does vary quite a bit, but you can watch for the signs. Once you are more confident you can be the one to initiate roaming.
Funny fact, if you want to practice teamfighting ARAM is a good way to at least learn the basics. And it's a good way to be forced to try out champs you might otherwise avoid. I don't recommend too many games, but playing occasionally helps, and most players are more accepting of struggles with a champ there.

That's it, You can add me in game if you see me and I'm always happy to coach. Like I said, I'm helping another level 7 right now, although I wonder how well I'm doing, as he's struggling in lane often. (doesn't help that we'll have 4 level 28 or above people and him so he's had more than a few matchups with a level 30 in lane.)

Omnipherious3/4/2015, 4:57:26 AM1 votes

Learning New Champs & Getting Used to Teamfights Champion Spotlights are a very good place to start. Champion pages in the LoL client give you simple rundowns of each ability and have some tips.

For more specific or advanced tips, look up written guides or videos. Alternatively, spectate some featured games.

To get used to a new champion, create a custom game (maybe add a bot or two) so you can test out abilities in peace and without unnecessary stress/pressure.

For teamfight practice, hop into an ARAM (Play > PvP > ARAM). Single lane 5v5 map, you start at champion level 3 and get gold faster.

ARAMs are good for:

Discovering new champions, since one is randomly picked for you 1.1 Lock-in button is replaced with Reroll here, it always you to roll for a new champion 1.2 You earn Reroll tokens by playing non-bot games
General teamfighting 2.1 Important targets on the enemy team 2.2 Important allies 2.3 Positioning 2.4 Using abilities (when to use early or when to hold on)
Item build tests 3.1 Since games are shorter and you gain gold quicker 3.2 Some items are different from Summoner's Rift but most are the same

Practicing A Specific Champion in 5v5 SR Go to TeamBuilder.

You can pre-select your champion, where you wanna go and what spells you wanna run.

When you get matched with a team you can choose to stay or leave if you don't like how it looks. Alternatively, you could host and accept/reject others that are searching.

EDIT: Don't worry about bringing the team down. Everybody was a beginner at some point. Play with friends helps you have fun and allows you to learn / get better together.

SleepyLionCub3/4/2015, 5:27:11 AM1 votes

Bot games as a whole are a noob trap. The bots are super easy, and don't behave at all like real players.

However champions you should try if you are new are

Garen or Malphite or Chogath top

Annie or Akali mid

Ashe or Caitlyn Adc

Sona or Malphite support

It can really help to look up champion guides and general advice in YouTube videos

Pryotra3/4/2015, 5:57:40 AM1 votes

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I started playing LoL a few months ago with my fiancee. He caught on right away, I however am having a super hard time! I will try to explain my two problems as clear as possible. Sorry in advance if it doesn't make sense!!

I know this feel. Good thing you asked questions.

Problem one- i understand the basics of using a champion. I for the most part understand what each ability does on the champ im playing, however i feel i am missing important things! I cant ever figure out the real strategy of that specific champ. Champs like Ashe i can do but when i look into better ranked champs it seems i have no idea what i should be doing. I feel like im button mashing most of the game!

This sounds like you aren't fully understanding the game mechanics. That's OK, I don't think that the game itself does a good job of teaching some of these.

For example, did you know scoring the killing blow on minions gives you gold? When you lane, try focusing on last hitting when you aren't trading blows with the enemy champion, and you should see that you have more gold to spend on items.

Getting jumped from the dark alot? Using wards should allow you to spot the enemy coming on the minimap! Just place one down wherever you want to have vision on the map, like in a bush in the river or a choke point in the jungle, and you might notice that it gets easier to see ambushes getting set up! The yellow trinket is free, and will give you A single short duration ward, but if you upgrade for some gold it the reward is an increased capacity of 2 full length wards that refresh. This is really, really helpful, and I highly recommend that you take advantage of this.

Mid-Late game, sticking with your team becomes important, as this is when teamfights start happening. Make sure to focus objectives like towers and Dragon with your team when you can, as these will help you win the game. Getting boots and upgrading them should help if you have a hard time keeping up with your team, and you should be getting them on every champ.

Problem 2- I am very successful in bot games, but when i try PvP i feel like i fail miserably. Bot games are of course a great way to practice but it really didn't prepare me for a lot of the things I experienced in PvP. For one,m, people playing bots often dont care about rules. I try to play as if it were a pvp match but so much is either high levels playing so they can go 60/0, which means they end up getting all the kills and carrying the game without needing any help. Other times its people goofing off saying they want to have 3 mid and one top and one bot. Its so frustrating! Bot also doesnt prepair me for the big team fights or the need for allies to be moving lanes to assist. I know PvP is the only way to get better at PvP but i really hate to be the new girl bring the team down.

Unfortunately, the best way to get better at pvp is to pvp. You already know that though. The best advice I can give on this is to look up guides, practice mechanics, and just play the game to have fun. Over time, you will come to recognize certain champions by their abilities, and you will learn how to dodge/deal with these abilities, altering how you fight them.

ANY ADVICE?!?!?!?! PLEASE SAVE ME!

There are a few "workouts" you can do to increase your mechanics. Practicing last hitting with auto attacks only till 10 minutes, and see if you can break 80 creep kills is one example. Just keep practicing and you should find that you do get better. I also recomend picking a champion you like and sticking with them for a bit to really learn them.