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Aatrox has a ton of problems, so here's a thread pointing them out.

Freevageeter·6/28/2018, 6:58:29 AM·20 votes·11,002 views

His passive needs a quality of life buff where it isn't consumed on minions.

All of his Q's don't correlate with each other via their range. His first Q is further than his second, and second is further than his 3rd which doesn't make any sense because his 3rd Q is ALL of his damage.

His W is useless until 3 points into it because they just walk right out of it, even without boots. Even if I do Q them while they're slowed in my W, there's just still no threat of me ever killing them because they'll walk away right after.

His E buff range was nice, as well as the healing of it, but it just doesn't feel rewarding to use properly. When I do pull off the E>Q combo, I can't actually put the rest of my combo into place because they're just too far away.

His ult has got to be the most useless fucking ability in the game right now. The 20% extra damage isn't really noticeable because you have about 140 AD with Black clever in lane, so that's 28 AD. He's completely useless when he revives out of it, legit every time I've used my ult in the middle of a fight, I revive and then do nothing because it takes 2 Q's to get to the 3rd Q damage. You just don't feel threatening at all like you used too with old Aatrox. Also, the fact that I cast my Q animation while I'm reviving has made me lose out on a ton of kills.

Anything that revolves around sticking on Aatrox or has any form of Silence in their kit, just completely shits on him.

His ult cast time is WAYYYYYYYYYYY too long, I've died multiple fucking times while ulting and I just don't get my revive. I also feel that it needs to do some AOE damage like before, like some AP damage would be nice so tanks top lane can't just build full armor and smash your ass into oblivion.

It seems that you want Aatrox players to use their W to initiate their entire combo, except it's on a 17 second cooldown, the ability hitbox is smaller than a minion and it's the last ability that should be maxed. It isn't reliable in any manner because 75% of the champions in League have some sort of mobility in their kit, so they'll just hop right out of it.

Yes, I'm aware I'm no Aatrox mastermind and he's only been out for a day, but I've been spam playing him, 23 games even with the hotfixes, and he just feels awful to play. I can't see why I would pick Aatrox over any other bruiser/juggernaut/tank in the game to be honest, everything else just feels more rewarding to play.

10 Comments

FireDrizzle6/28/2018, 8:12:33 AM9 votes

He doesnt have an ultimate ability. All it is, is a vlad bloodpool when you die that revives you with 50hp. New Aatrox has trash base hp like old, but old Aatrox sustained a LOT more and didnt he revive with more hp? I also say he has no ult because the hp you revive from bloodwell is what you would have playing another melee champ.

The lack of hp makes him a bad brusier, but idk about full ad, only played it once.

ModKnightsKemplar6/28/2018, 3:56:02 PM3 votes

Passive I could get on board for.

Q's were designed that way on purpose, so you can catch someone out with the 1st, and as you apply slows with the critical area, you keep getting closer. If that gets changed, he'll be worse or OP.

W isn't a catch tool. Use it to zone. Again, buffs would make it OP.

Ult shouldn't auto-win you fights. You have to use it intelligently and get into position with it. You still have to land Q's to be threatening.

Yep, silence is gonna hurt him. It hurts other champions too, like Kata. You have counters. This is League.

If you're casting ult in a fight, you're using it wrong. Cast time is there so you don't use it that way. Working as intended.

W shouldn't be used to start fights, as I said above. Either use it zone or use it to make your 2nd or 3rd Q easier to hit.

That's okay. Play other champs then.

You've been posting a ton about Aatrox the last few days, but you're not understanding your own key points. He's a new champ now. You're still trying to play him like old Aatrox; your post makes it apparent that you aren't even taking the most basic advice about how to play him from the champ spotlight. If you're starting fights with W, not getting closer with every Q, and ulting mid-fight, that's all I need to know to see that you aren't playing him anywhere near optimally. This champ is more complicated than pre-rework; you won't do well on him if you aren't adjusting to that.

Shattered Mind6/28/2018, 12:52:20 PM1 votes

But its his he is now a chase god

Pika Fox6/28/2018, 2:50:25 PM1 votes

I feel like the problem is less "aatrox sucks" and more people are playing him wrong.

You dont need to land the Q sweetspots, its just ideal. Them slowly getting closer does feel natural. Q1 is your long reach ability. You can then close and auto, if they back away, Q2 will land. If not, E backwards and youll generally hit the sweet spot. Then auto range again and Q3 gets them.

Either way, even if you miss the sweet spots you still do respectable damage.

W isnt just a free walk out. Its shape means either they run to the side or towards you to just walk out, if they try to run directly back away, theyll get pulled right in. Treat it more like sion Q, and use it to control enemy movements.

Ult.... You really shouldnt be pressing R mid fight. It has a long duration and speed boost, you want to use it BEFORE enterring the fight so the well has a moment to start filling and you get the boost to get in the fight faster. Its not a last second savior ability like trynd ult.

FireDrizzle6/28/2018, 5:05:53 PM1 votes

I think deaths dance and steraks and build no tank items except sv is good. You can get ravenous hunter from runes to drain tank without wasting money trying to be very tanky(impossible atm) . He is powerful in lane so he is ok despite having no ult, but you going to have to play him perfect to win the game.

Troll for Trump6/28/2018, 2:14:28 PM1 votes

His passive is fine. HIs ult is much more simple than other ults in-game, causing it feel less satisfactory, but it's not actually that bad. His W is meh. His Q/E (his main schtick) is what really feels clunky. And since that's the core of his kit...

Stew526/28/2018, 12:37:05 PM1 votes

His Q is meant to get smaller and smaller with each cast, that's literally what it is designed to do. It's meant to encourage aggressive play by constantly advancing on the enemy.