Riot just an Azir question?

The New Tyler1·3/23/2016, 3:51:25 PM·2 votes·1,713 views

Im curious why his soliders dont apply on hit effects like fervor but still attract minion aggro as if he is auto attacking. Simply why is there such a mix as it applies spell effects like Rylai's, attracts minion aggro like auto attacks, but does not apply on hit effects. Any input would be appreciated Thank you!!!

18 Comments

RiotMeddler3/23/2016, 6:38:41 PM4 votes

Azir's auto attacks via soldiers are overall much, much closer to auto attacks in terms of what its like to play as and against him. For the same reason we have minion agro on regular auto attacks (guaranteed to hit, resource free ranged damage) they need to also pull agro. They apply spell effects in particular because applying on hit effects would be excessively powerful. AOE red buff, Triforce or Lichbane at that range etc are incredibly powerful effects that define how a champion has to be balanced (see: Ezreal) and that wasn't what we wanted to create with Azir. AP itemization also made more sense with how we wanted him to play (not going glass AD or bruiser for example which AD or on hit offensive paths can tend to), giving the right sort of defensive tools and a sustained damage pattern.

Having said that, yeah, there's definitely a bit of clash with expectations in that soldier attacks are treated somewhat as auto attacks and somewhat as spells. The alternatives are really high cost though, so while we do feel consistency's important it doesn't trump everything else. Some degree of rule breaking on any given champion's also ok, or in many cases ideal (it's how champions distinguish themselves from others of the same class).

Brimaz The King3/23/2016, 3:53:29 PM1 votes

Soldiers don't cause minon agro. Also his soldiers DO apply on hit effects.

Stardew Valley3/23/2016, 3:57:23 PM1 votes

It's technically an ability (It will proc Rylai). I think this is also the reason why it doesnt apply on-hit effects.

Brimaz The King3/23/2016, 3:57:25 PM1 votes

If you bring up a soldier and use that soldier to attack an enemy champion minons will NOT attack you. I used to main Azir I would do that all the time. If you don't believe me go into a custom game with me and I'll show my self.

The New Tyler13/23/2016, 4:18:21 PM1 votes

So just an Update to anyone viewing they do in fact attract minion aggro like an auto attack however still apply spell effects but does not stack fervor, tested this with Brimaz The King!

Brimaz The King3/23/2016, 4:18:58 PM1 votes

Yeah riot I would like an answer too. I used to play azir haven't in about a year. His soldiers used to not pull agro why do they now?