Dopa said this

Namitu·3/4/2018, 9:42:03 PM·65 votes·16,752 views

So I recently so a video of Dopa saying that skill doesn't even really matter in this game anymore. He said your champion pick matters a lot more than your skill, even if you're the best player in the world. "If your adc picks Jhin and he's an adc main, and their adc is a jungle main and picks varus. The varus will do a lot better.". This shows where this game is going. It's going to complete shit, it doesn't even matter if you're good anymore, as long as if you are a meta comp you will win. This is really stupid tbh. Bring back old league.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzvJvl_PjQ

watch from ~4:30

97 Comments

Ahristocats3/4/2018, 9:51:25 PM72 votes

aristote said that the sun was moving around earth

just because someone famous said something doesn't mean it's right

DarkSoul663/4/2018, 10:52:03 PM11 votes

And dopa was wrong.... Being famous doesn't mean shit, he's probably just salty.

Slythion3/4/2018, 10:39:52 PM10 votes

Dopa is an arrogant turd that should almost never be taken seriously when talking about fields that aren't

Boosting or
Challenger Elo

Altiverse3/5/2018, 10:57:05 AM6 votes

While a lot of people seem to disagree with his statement, I have to agree. I may not have been Korea's #1 Challenger, but I did finish as Challenger last season so I consider my opinion valid enough, though disregard it as you like:

I don't think he means that if in a hypothetical setting, where a silver player plays 100% Varus and is matched only against Jhin players he will eventually climb to Diamond (nor vice versa - where a Diamond player plays 100% Jhin and is matched only against worse Varus players, he will eventually drop to Silver).

The point is that within the range of the current Matchmaking system, however narrow/wide you consider it to be, even the worst of the 10 players in a match that picks a good champion will do better than the best of 10 players that picks a bad champion. ...Which means it applies to every Ranked game. When every Ranked game of LoL, a game that's known for its massive focus on skill expression, turned from "skill expression" into the champion you pick... I find it wrong.

woodvsmurph3/5/2018, 4:22:30 AM4 votes

That statement is very rank-dependent. At higher ranks, players typically have more macro skill and understanding and can thus better adapt to very different roles and play a large variety of champs to a higher skill level. True this is not the case for everyone; however, it is more common. As SirChez (not sure on spelling) pointed out to one twitch chat person, he might be able to play a champ for the first time and be better on it and know more about it than someone who has 2 million master points on the champ... and is bronze. Champions have always had counters (insert riven meme here) and thus at higher rank where everyone is playing a champ closer to perfection, you will see those counter-picks having a bigger impact. Player skill is closer to equal because there are fewer players at each rank the higher you go and thus less deviation/error from the "standard" for a rank.

This all plays in to reinforce the power of counterpicks and team comps. It might be getting reinforced more with league as time goes on; however, it was there well before season 8 or even season 5. There's nothing wrong with picks being important and there being a meta. But I think we'd also both agree you should not be forced into only being able to play a select few champs for each role while all others remain unviable even if you draft a good team comp for them - just because they are not the meta champs.

chipndip13/5/2018, 4:00:42 AM3 votes

This is the same man that said Orianna, at 50% win rate, had no counters.

I'm not saying he isn't one of the best solo queue players out there, if not THE best, but that doesn't make his hyperbole true.

Z3Sleeper3/6/2018, 12:23:12 AM3 votes

It only applies to ADCs really. Since ADC is such a homogenized role it all comes down to whichever ADC is the strongest rather than player skill.

Player skill does factor in, but is alot less noticeable than in other roles due to the nature of their power being in right clicks.