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What's wrong with Rengar?

Psylome·6/3/2016, 2:07:45 PM·1 votes·864 views

So if anybody looks me up in game, you would find i'm not the highest ranked player in the world. I'm only gold 5. and only barely. I've honestly hit a wall and i'm trying to improve past it. That being said. I think we can all agree Rengar is definitely the best champion in any game ever made ever. Kappa

This isn't really a post complaining about nerfs or asking for buffs or anything like that. Just a question really.

What's the problem with rengar?

I'm subscribed to this guy on youtube named Hunter. A fellow Rengar lover, this guy just released a video of certain people who i'm assuming are on the balance team saying Rengar will be one of the guaranteed champions to be reworked. I'll actually leave a link to it if anybody would like to watch it.

But I don't understand what's wrong with the champion. I understand the whole Feast or Famine philosophy is not the type of play style that Riot wants in the game. So it would make sense to me if that was the only reason. I've heard that he has no counter play, and I used to agree with that. If you're balancing the game around the ranked game mode, which is what I'm hoping they've been doing all the way since season 1 =P. Then when you see a Rengar picked. Just pick somebody who counters him right? I personally ban Kindred/Kayle/Rek'sai every chance I get. At least one of them I obviously can't ban 3 champions with one pick =P. But as far as the Feast or Famine play style, I don't see the problem with high risk high reward gameplay. What's wrong with that right?

I know it's rough getting one shot when you have only a second and a half of notification it's about to happen. But if you see a Rengar on the enemy team, and you don't pick anything to counter it. Like shouldn't you be punished for it?

I know wall of text sorry, I guess the TL:DR would be: What's so bad about Rengar that he needs to be changed?

Here's a link to that guys video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRU_-RsMtik

14 Comments

Maximum Morde6/3/2016, 2:33:29 PM2 votes

Rengars biggest problem right now is that he is a furry. This causes him to be socially rejected and thus has no friends. He then lashes out at those around him further preventing potential friendships from even starting. He needs a full shave and plastic surgery to fix him.

MLDzXnRRR6/3/2016, 2:20:46 PM2 votes

Don't forget he is manaless. Imagine Twitch and Shaco, if they were manaless...

stealthfox946/3/2016, 3:57:30 PM2 votes

The problem with Rengar is that he has to one shot someone to be viable. That isn't a healthy design.

Illiad6/3/2016, 2:17:36 PM1 votes

Its because his current kit is impossible to balance, nerfing it just leaves him unplayable and leaving it as it is leaves him to strong, so they need to overhaul the design to make it easier to balance and play around. edit: also what if rengar last picks, how do you counterpick then?

Caítlyn6/3/2016, 3:13:38 PM1 votes

"They didnt pick Kayle, Zilean, or Kindred so I deserve to instakill everyone and auto win the game"

DeathBurst6/3/2016, 3:59:05 PM1 votes

The problem with Feast or Famine is that, if it's Feast, it's not fun for the people playing against. But if it's Famine, it's not fun for you. If a champion is guaranteed to upset someone in every game, it's a good cause to rework him.

And that's related but different than high risk/high reward. Feast or Famine means guaranteed success/failure with no room for skills. High risk/high reward means very big failure/success, with no guarantee at all. Different notions. The relation between the two is that, pretty often, a "high reward" for an initial "high risk" is entering a Feast state, where there isn't any risk anymore. Is that clear?

Zero Skill Tank6/3/2016, 2:31:17 PM1 votes

What's wrong with Rengar?

Everything. Literally. For a start.*

I've heard that he has no counter play

And you heard right. Is amount counterplay available to his enemies exactly 0? No, of course not. But it is probably the lowest of all champions in game. Kayle, Kindred and Zil can be used to counter everyone, and Rek'sai counters everyone with a dash, and even than it is harder for them to counter Rengar than anyone else.

I understand the whole Feast or Famine philosophy is not the type of play style that Riot wants in the game.

Nahnahnahnahnah. Riot loves feast and famine. But Rengar isn't that. Not in the sense Zed and Talon are. Even if he fails say his 3 first ganks, he scales harder than many champions in the game, and can still make an easy comeback. Rengar is Feasting if he gets fed, but he never feels Famine for long.

I don't see the problem with high risk high reward gameplay.

Again - Rango is not high risk high reward. He can choose time of his engage very freely, he has perfect knowledge of position of all enemies that could harm him, and leaves very little time to react. And he is pretty tanky. Out of all assassins he takes the least risks.

  • except for brush passive. That one is pretty cool.