Can we turn down on the reworks?

HSBunny·8/26/2018, 6:14:53 PM·8 votes·1,340 views

Reworks have never been this much of a priority, and I see week by week how the strategie and the love for old champions and their identity is stripped away and I can do nothing about it.

Instead of new champions like Zoe being released, we now have disney character Nunu and Sword master Pantheon comming up that has his kit completely turned upside down for what it's meant for. Him being a simple "Gladiator type of spartan" to "Random movie character that has 300 random skillshots built into his kit"

It's both emotionally draining and mentally draining if reworks are comming out this fast. We had Akali now Nunu is right back up.

For someone that loved playing these older champions and being sucessfull with them in Ranked, even for them being not that popular: I see no point in reworking them.

There is no use to be thinking a champ is outdated if he still works, just because the champ itself is old doesn't mean that he's weak or can't cope with the newer ones.

And just because a champ is old doesn't mean you have to rework the champ, change for the sake of change is dumb. Especially if someone has build a strategie with the champ for 2000's of games, see his kit turned upside down made him from a fighter to tank.

Like what's the point???

But then again, majority always wins rather than the minority who love certain things about this game. To keep this game going, casuals are always gonna be able to keep this game more alive than someone that has played this game for a while.

I want this game to settle down at one point, slow down significantly with the updates and just float around being a stable, good game. Without any emotional boundaries.

I feel like this game is worked too hard on in a wrong direction.

20 Comments

Asamas8/26/2018, 6:26:50 PM6 votes

Yey. Only one man in the world plays Nunu. Let's not change him because this cry baby will be upset.

Yeah... No. The point is that Nunu was lame and boring and did nothing special. You can't tell me that he was interesting as a model or kit. Plus that Pantheon? What did he do wrong? Not a word about a rework for him and yet here you are saying crap about a rework that didn't even happen. And pls read the god damn lore and then acuse something of being disney. Because Willum is a god damn ancient and very wise yeti that teaches Nunu valuble lessons (and playing with him). But no he is a fluffy bear and his personality and purpose don't matter. His kit seems interesting for the first time since forever. What's wrong?

SEKAI8/26/2018, 6:30:33 PM3 votes

When Riot was releasing champs like hotcakes and couldn't care less about reworking old archaic champs, people said "why not just rework old ones instead of gushing out new champs endlessly?"

Riot took note, and is doing precisely that now.

Now the community goes "Can we turn down on the reworks?"

Yeah okay.

Critmaster Garen8/26/2018, 6:36:02 PM2 votes

we have had more successful reworks than champion releases.

and most reworks somehow improved the champion and his gameplay. if anything, we should even further reduce the amount of champ releases and focus that energy into reworks.

especially since an ever increasing champion pool makes this game more difficult to manage for the players and the live balance team.

the players have an ever increasing burden of knowledge to deal with, the more champions are added to the game. the balance team has to account for more and more broken champion and ability interactions when they make changes or additions to runes, items or even just buff or nerf champion numbers.

also, whenever a new champion is added to the game, there is a risk that this champion is difficult to manage and might need a rework himself. just look at out latest addition with Zoe but also other "newer" champions like Azir Ornn that were somehow problematic just after their release and almost immediately in need of a rework and heavy work by the balancing team.

if riot fails a champion rework with an already problematic champion, then the number of problematic champions in this game stays the same. but if riot messes up a newly released champion, the number of problematic champions and broken mechanics increases.

King Braum8/26/2018, 6:25:17 PM1 votes

I thought the opposite was often true, not that they were weak but simply outdated. Having abilities that simply dont quite fit into the game anymore. Besides for one I'm actually quite pleased with the new Nunu as it portrays a child with a monster a lot better in my opinion. Where the older voice felt odd and somewhat generic, the new one does a better job portraying the wonders of an actual child with a somewhat lovable monster.

Again, In my opinion Riot has been doing a lot better job keeping champions alive through their reworks compared to their past, with Nunu and Warwick keeping the spirit of the champion alive with a simple update to their kit instead of giving them something completely new.

The Highest Noon8/26/2018, 6:36:56 PM1 votes

Um, what? Why? There are champs that haven't had a gameplay update since Season 2. Why not rework them?

BeatzBoyFTW8/26/2018, 6:38:45 PM1 votes

Where the fuck did you get the Pantheon resources.

Tomoe Gozen8/26/2018, 7:50:36 PM1 votes

Short answer, no. Riot continually surveys players and half of 2018, 60/40 was the ratio from reworks/new champs. In 2019, it's back to 50/50 because the playerbase is clearly wanting new champs to make the game fresh and they still want reworks because they don't want old unusable champs clogging up the roster.

I'm looking forward to reworks as well.